Sarah Huckabee Sanders isn’t even trying any more. Or, perhaps, she’s just upping her game.
I mean, it’s one thing when Trump says, “X” and Sanders says, “Well, what he really meant was not X, but Y.”
Apparently that’s too many words, as she’s now going directly to “No, he said Y.” Even though, yeah, there’s the video footage of him saying “X.”
There’s Trump, on tape, saying: _”We need quick justice and we need strong justice — much quicker and much stronger than we have right now — because what we have right now is a joke, and it’s a laughingstock.”
And there’s Sanders turning around and essentially asserting he said something different (emphasis mine).
A few hours after Trump’s Cabinet meeting, CNN’s Jim Acosta asked White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, “Why did the president call the U.S. justice system a joke and a laughingstock?”
“That’s not what he said,” Sanders replied. “He said that process has people calling us a joke and a laughingstock.“
Now, maybe that’s what he meant to say, or maybe that’s what was scripted for him to say. But it’s not what he actually said. He didn’t talk about “people” calling “us” a joke and laughingstock — he said, speaking for himself, that “what we have” is a joke and a laughingstock.
But Sanders isn’t arguing that Trump misspoke, or was unclear, or was misinterpreted. She’s simply asserting he said something different from what he said.
Gaslighting is a psychological term for where someone attempts to control someone else by asserting reality is different from their memory of it. It’s frequently used by abusive spouses and authoritarian regimes. If you can get someone doubting their memory of events, it means they can be convinced that something was their fault, that abuse never happened, or didn’t happen in just that way, or that it was somehow justified, or that future things they perceive are, perhaps, their own misunderstanding.
It’s rare that you see it in political contexts quite so blatantly, or so proximate to when the event happened and was caught on video, as this.
Hours after Trump calls US justice system ‘a laughingstock,’ White House denies he ever did
A reporter quoted the president’s words verbatim to press secretary Sarah Sanders, who insisted, “That’s not what he said.”
In the words of a prophet, How many fingers, Winston?
Sandra Huckabee Sanders has demonstrated, beyond any doubt, SHE is a joke.
The Russian Big Foot. Lol
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dnhgS_Es0zHf7e-DEhRz7598hASsviyHzAgYCNy4OBDJBTAB356fSSdam7sGSF9-PJdnzPuGne8
Is a laughingstock anything like a bumpstock? Does it enable one to snicker both continuously and contemptuously until your supply of oxygen is depleted?
He meant exactly what he said.😏Duh.
He is the laughingstock! The worse nightmare!
The world looks on in amazement.
Trump has taken the US and politics to a new level, Three feet below the bottom of a cesspit.
Trump's right, the justice system that allows someone so obviously inept to be POTUS is a laughing stock. #hurryupjustice
Sarah should of been a Lawyer and even at that wouldn't be good at Shallow water Sarah
I'm glad you all have the right answers.
I'm so.glad that I live in uk England not usa 😆
+Keith Roy Franklin So says the all mighty media. They should always be trusted. #liberallogic
+Haleem Bostan Well, the UK has its own political zanies and self-inflicted policy problems, but I'll confess that Trump has them beat for the moment.
Yes your right but we got law here not a circus since trump took over he don't knw how to be a president
+Robby Rash Hyperbolic rhetoric on any given side aside, are you okay with the "mighty media" questioning why the WH Press Secretary is asserting clear non-truths to the press?
the usa media never stoped barking at trump 😊
The press should bring a lapatop or a tv to play trump clips for her.
since trump took over its like a stand up comedy show in the white house
and we all laughing in the UK
😱Booty Licking At Its Finest!😱
+Robby Rash so you have a problem with your hearing ?
Listen to what he said live, then listen to Sarah reply to what she claims he said. If you have problems with what you hear and what you want to hear, best stay away from making rediculous remarks. You only prove yourself to be rather gullable.
all he's doing is to divert attention from the truth I. e like Russians funded him on his compaign because the Russians didn't like hillary Clinton
+Robby Rash it's not the mighty media saying it, it is any person outside the US who has even a passing interest in politics. Your Mr. Trump is a joke and a laughingstock. His administration is the very height of inept and corrupted croniism, and the view of the US as a world leader has become so diminished, as to to make Xi Jiping and China appear as a moderate and thoughtful alternative. Y'all are losing the battle for hegemony. And in reality, the only thing keeping the US head above water is the Petrodollar Recycling System, which could be dismantled at any time, should enough countries choose to reject it and move toward multicurrency oil sales. If that should happen the twenty four trillion dollar debt you owe the world will be called in, and your country would become the equal of Zimbabwe. Y'all need to ditch that idiot soon, or you're all gonna hate life.
spot on well said
+Haleem Bostan
Hillary Clinton has more ties to the Russians in the Public sector, then Donald Trump has in total. And yet, you were perfectly fine with a candidate that supplied 20% of the U.S' Uranium to the Russians. Don't see you bitching and moaning, you hypocrite.
+Jordi Perullas entirely discredited conspiracy theory. Try again
Donald is a very big laughing stock. And the greatest joke we have had in the white house since Ford!
You said a mouth full.
+Michael Cannon
Discredited by who? I've yet to see anyone discredit that, in fact, it's quite known that it happened. Funny how the person investigating Trump, invested in hedge funds related to Russia and George Soros. And you seem to have no problems with that. Gee, totally not a conflict of interest there, but when it's Trump, you lose your minds.
+Haleem Bostan
And I suppose you have proof of this? I'll be patiently waiting here for the next 7 years of Trump's presidency waiting for said proof. As I'll likely never see any due to the fact that he never colluded in the first place.
+Jordi Perullas there you go. Any time I see someone name drop Soros, I know that I'm talking to a Fox'nfriends, Alex Jones infowars, Breitbart flunky. As I said, try harder. Your Mr. Trump is making "Team America" from a very funny movie into an extremely frightening reality. Durka durka!!
+Michael Cannon
Nice rebuttal there, you totally didn't gloss over the Russia part. Again, willful ignorance, every time Russia is tied to someone you like/support, you put your hands over your ears, and go "ALALALALALALALA".
+Jordi Perullas you're funny ain't ya. I don't support Hillary if that's what you're implying. I'm simply all to aware of the history of the downfall of empires, and the Trumpian archetype is inevitably the precursor and architect of those downfalls. I tried to warn all y'all for the entire campaign. Hillary was the much lesser of two evils. But y'all chose the devil himself. Good luck getting him out now. The US will become the domain and personal bank of the Trump family, and there's probably little to stop it. Even impeachment won't be enough, because the gun toting "alt righters" will lead the charge into civil war. Best of luck to y'all. You know what they say, it pays to look at the big picture, but his diversionary tactics of focusing on unimportant small things and personality wars worked a treat, and the crazy right wingers ate it up like upsized Mcdonalds.
You made your beds, and now you will have to lay in them…I just feel sorry for the thinking people of the US, because they're gonna suffer equally.
+Michael Cannon
Do you even live in the U.S? Lmfao.
I wouldn't even go there for a holiday and to poke fun at all y'all…
Lmfao😂
Thankfully I can do it from the relative safety of the other side of the world. But your response clearly demonstrates your lack of comprehension of the world outside of the US, or indeed of the history of democracies and empires since the dawn of civilisation. I suggest reading Plato's Republica, maybe that'll open your eyes.
Anyhoo… Enjoy what freedom you have left, it'll all be gone soon enough.
Just as an interesting aside, your Mr. Trumps fascista mentor Mussolini once said, "you Americans will grow tired of democracy…" guess he was smarter than he looked
Bahahahahaha!!!
Welcome to the regime. The dump / Putin regime. Patimay said it best in the third star wars movie, This is how liberty dies, With thunderes aplause.
+Michael Cannon
Congrats, as of right now, you have interfered in U.S politics just like the Russians. What you have just done is effectively what the Russians did back in 2016, "We don't like Clinton".
"OMG the Russians interfered in U.S Elections."
Yes they did. They erected dump as dictator.
+Anthony Anderson
No proof, no argument. I love the incessant name calling, as if that's going to change anything.
More proof and all truth. Mueller is the man. The truth is here. Mueller is the truth. Mueller 2020
+Jordi Perullas ahahahahaha hahaha haha haha…
Bahahahahaha hahaha… Really? Is that really the best you've got? Wow!! Priceless. Like shooting ducks in a barrel. It's no wonder Mr. Trump and Alex Jones can get away with what they do. It's not me interfering in US politics.
It's Miss Rebekah Mercer and her Daddy the wanna be overlord that y'all need to worry about..not Russians or Chinese or me.
Too funny😀😁😂😃😄😅😆😉😊😋
Wow, you people are sadly deluded. Enjoy the next seven years. I'm afraid for you and your sanity.
There won't be seven years for dump. He will be gone soon. Impeachment!
Funny +Jordi Perullas that's exactly what I'm thinking of you Trumpites. Time will tell my friend. Good luck
+Jordi Perullas 'And yet, you were perfectly fine with a candidate that supplied 20% of the U.S' Uranium to the Russians … I've yet to see anyone discredit that, in fact, it's quite known that it happened.'
Yeah, except that it didn't.
No, Hillary didn't "supply" anything: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/26/the-facts-behind-trumps-repeated-claim-about-hillary-clintons-role-in-the-russian-uranium-deal/, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/29/the-dossier-and-the-uranium-deal-a-guide-to-the-latest-allegations/
And, no, not 20%: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/31/the-repeated-incorrect-claim-that-russia-obtained-20-percent-of-our-uranium/
Or if you'd prefer it summarized on video: https://boingboing.net/2017/10/30/watch-joy-reid-destroy-claim-t.html
'Funny how the person investigating Trump, invested in hedge funds related to Russia and George Soros.'
So I guess you referring to stories running in such sterling gems of journalistic integrity as Infowars [https://www.infowars.com/robert-mueller-invested-in-hedge-funds-linked-to-russia-and-george-soros/, http://offendedamerica.com/robert-mueller-invested-hedge-funds-linked-russia-george-soros/]. Which indicates that the Mueller has investmnts (among his other investments) in the Mellon Optima L/S Strategy Fund, LLC, a sinister organization shrouded in mystery. [https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=29945202, https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1312483/000119312513251682/d501516dncsr.htm]. One of the funds that this fund invests in is the OCCO Eastern European Fund [https://www.charlemagnecapital.com/media/6381/mr_oeef__en_20160831.pdf] — at least that's what Infowars says, though the link they include for Mellon Optima L/S Strategy Fund points to the 2013 SEC filing, not the 2017, so it's hard to say. But the 2013 filing indicates most of the funds invested in make up all of, oh, 4% each of the total. So if there actually is an Eastern European fund in there, that in turn includes "Eastern European and Russian securities" it's hard to see how that translates into sinister Russian influence on Robert Mueller.
That same Mellon Optima fund, it seems, also had a fraction of its money in a fund managed bu someone who used to work for George Soros. Again, it's difficult to see how that particular influence works through managers and single-digit percentage investments within pools of other investments — or, for that matter, how George Soros and Russia (two very opposed parties) are somehow collaborating to, um, do something something to influence an investigation that folk like you keep denying has found anything.
I mean, what are you actually arguing here is happening?
Obligatory Disclosure: I have a 401(k) that has some foreign investments. It's quite possible that some of those funds are managed by some George Soros people, or by some Goldman Sachs people, or maybe some other people. It is possible that those funds have investments in companies that do business with Russia, or China, or India, or possibly Australia or Brazil. Make of that what you will.
'As of right now, you have interfered in U.S politics just like the Russians. What you have just done is effectively what the Russians did back in 2016, "We don't like Clinton". "OMG the Russians interfered in U.S Elections."'
Um, there's a difference between someone outside the country expressing a preference for one presidential candidate over another, and what Russia did.
If the Russians simply said, "We don't like Clinton," that would one thing. And that would be very different from, oh, I don't, hacking into Democratic mail servers and distributing the contents to the press, or creating faux "American" activist groups to spray divisive Facebook ads and YouTube videos around the election … well, that would be considered foreign interference.
Oh, yeah, and if Russian government officials, and Russians working with Russian government officials, and Russians working for Russian oligarchs who buddy around Vladimir Putin, were meeting with members of a candidate's campaign staff and offering to pass on or coordinate release of information that they'd stolen, or gotten from somewhere intelligence-related, that would be foreign interference, too.
Oh, and if Russians were targeting election systems, or voter registration systems, or things like that, that would be foreign interference, too.
If you can point to where the commenters here did something like that, I'll be happy to accuse them of foreign influence.
Someone please, Change dumps huggies he pooped again.
Oh, and, community: I know there's a certain cathartic joy in calling Trump a poopy-head, but it doesn't really add to the conversation. Nor does ad hominem attacking other commenters. Just saying.
You call the devil the devil. Then he is the devil. Saying.
Apologies. Sometimes I get a bit carried away, but that particular person asked for it +Dave Hill
+Dark Link: I suspect something like this might have been behind that time Spicer prohibited reporters to bring any recording devices into a press briefing.
+Dave Hill If the name of God is an ancestor to the algebraic variable, this makes your use of algebraic variables, symptomatic of the language of a successor-to-prophets.
Sarah is confused, she wanted to know if the reporter said we have 50 free pizzas here.
Time for an impeachment party.
Time to tell sarah huckabee sanders to stop liying. Mueller is coming for her too.