{"id":2058,"date":"2012-06-08T11:40:44","date_gmt":"2012-06-08T18:40:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/?p=2058"},"modified":"2012-06-08T11:40:44","modified_gmt":"2012-06-08T18:40:44","slug":"whats-the-matter-with-penelope-yin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2012\/06\/whats-the-matter-with-penelope-yin.html","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s the Matter with Penelope Yin?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Paragon Studios team does a &#8220;Freedom Friday&#8221; weekly quasi-chat on Google Plus, answering questions that people pose, etc. \u00a0Today, after getting my actual game question answer, <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/107953044404451034374\/posts\/ZETUdywPaeU\">I made the following observation<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Just some feedback on the current splash screen, btw: it&#8217;s awful. \u00a0Not only am I less than thrilled with young Penelope Yin going from t-shirted and jeans-wearing teen\u00a0to not-quite-dominatrix-geared hero, but you have her up there in one of those stereotypical super-heroine twisted-spine positions so that the viewer\u00a0can conveniently see both her butt and her boobs.<\/p>\n<p>Bad show. I expect better from Paragon.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the image (reversed, as it&#8217;s the current background for the cityofheroes.com site):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/coh-freedom-penelope-detail.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-2059\" title=\"Penelope Yin, Cover Model\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/coh-freedom-penelope-detail-595x650.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"595\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/coh-freedom-penelope-detail-595x650.jpg 595w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/coh-freedom-penelope-detail-274x300.jpg 274w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/coh-freedom-penelope-detail.jpg 796w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 595px) 85vw, 595px\" \/><\/a>So some background. <a href=\"http:\/\/cityofheroes.wikia.com\/wiki\/Penelope_Yin\">Penelope Yin<\/a> first shows up in the game as the heroes are hitting level 15 or so, in Faultline. \u00a0She&#8217;s a t-shirt-and-jeans teenager trying to deal with some problems in that zone. She also can psychically control Clockwork.<\/p>\n<p>Over time it&#8217;s developed that Penelope is one of the most powerful psychics in the world, and with recent events she&#8217;s joined the Freedom Phalanx as a full-blown hero.<\/p>\n<p>She&#8217;s also managed to pick up an awful costume. It&#8217;s not quite dominatrix-wear. \u00a0Not quite. \u00a0But between the thigh-high red high-heeled boots, the not-really-bare stockinged legs under a red bikini bottom, and the gartered crop-top bare-belly look above the waist &#8230; it&#8217;s just a silly costume, almost as though she were trying to find a <em>parody<\/em> of a Sexy Super-Heroine Outfit to show off in.<\/p>\n<p>And then there&#8217;s the picture above.<\/p>\n<p>On the splash screen (which I couldn&#8217;t find an image of), she&#8217;s \u00a0leaping forward to go toe to toe with some villain (on the web page, he&#8217;s off facing the other direction to match her). \u00a0But look at it. \u00a0First off, her legs are <em>impossibly <\/em>long. But secondly, she&#8217;s in that all-too-stereotypically awful Contorted Female Super-Hero Display Pose. \u00a0The one where, through a <em>twist <\/em>of the spine, she manages to be pointing both her butt and her boobs toward you.<\/p>\n<p>And this was a teenaged girl not very long ago, and now is one of Paragon&#8217;s pre-eminent heroes. \u00a0A role model, in-game and potentially for other teens (or tweens) in real life.<\/p>\n<p>And this is now the splash screen that pops up for the next N months (until the next issue) every time you go into the game or change servers.<\/p>\n<p>As Margie phrased it, <em>&#8220;Probably not appropriate and an ugly costume.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>As Isaac Sher, a commenter on the same thread, put it:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Again, let&#8217;s set aside how her costume looks &#8212; her face does not say &#8220;I&#8217;m about to fight a dangerous foe&#8221;, it says to me &#8220;Tee Hee, I&#8217;m posing for a swimsuit issue photo shoot! \u00a0YAY!&#8221; \u00a0It&#8217;s really out of place. \u00a0 Also, her body is, as others have said, twist so that she&#8217;s thrusting both her posterior and her breasts towards the camera, and it just looks grotesque and unnatural &#8212; and just seems like she&#8217;s there to Look Sexy For Male Players rather than Be An Awesome Hero For Justice.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yeah, I actually engendered a reaction &#8212; a couple of commenters and some +1s on my remarks.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I certainly don&#8217;t mind a bit of cheesecake (mmmmmm, cheesecake), though in general my heroines tend to be a bit more covered up. \u00a0But there&#8217;s two things going on here that bug me, and they&#8217;re somewhat intertwined:<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_2060\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2060\" style=\"width: 141px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-teen.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2060 \" title=\"Penelope Yin\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-teen-141x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"141\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-teen-141x300.jpg 141w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-teen.jpg 244w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 141px) 85vw, 141px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2060\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Penelope in her more teen-aged, less thigh-high-boots days.<\/figcaption><\/figure> <figure id=\"attachment_2061\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2061\" style=\"width: 186px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-new.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2061\" title=\"Penelope Yin's new costume\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-new-186x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"186\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-new-186x300.jpg 186w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-new-403x650.jpg 403w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/penelope-yin-new.jpg 638w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 186px) 85vw, 186px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2061\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Penelope&#39;s new outfit, as rendered in the game.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p>First off, it&#8217;s just an ugly costume. And silly. \u00a0I mean, thigh-highs, and the bikini\/stockings, and the armor bits on her arms and shoulders and face &#8230; and then a bare midriff (with straps holding up her pants?). \u00a0 Nice costume pieces, but the whole is much less than the parts. \u00a0And it &#8212; especially as painted (and posed) above, just comes off as a tawdry sexualization.<\/p>\n<p>Which even then wouldn&#8217;t be horrific (just a scosh distasteful in some fashion), except I still think of Penelope as a teenager. \u00a0I have no idea whether she is or not (she&#8217;s a &#8220;teenager&#8221; and a &#8220;girl&#8221; in the Faultline thread, and it&#8217;s ostensibly now 4-5 years later &#8212; though you can still find her there, I believe), and certainly she has gone through a lot of big experiences since then. \u00a0But I still associate her with being younger than I should be leching after (or being hinted that I should be leching after).<\/p>\n<p>And even if it&#8217;s just &#8220;I knew her when she was young and innocent,&#8221; it still just jars seeing her in that splash screen every time I fire up the game, angling her butt and boobs at the viewer.<\/p>\n<p>And what did Paragon have to say?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Thanks for the feedback! We&#8217;ll convey your thoughts on the art back to the dev team. We&#8217;re extremely happy and lucky to have a team of talented artists working on City of Heroes Freedom, and we&#8217;re grateful for all the hard work they put in to make City of Heroes an even greater game than ever before.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Um &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>To which I replied:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The art team&#8217;s certainly talented, and that&#8217;s part of what makes the game a deserved success. \u00a0I just think in this case (and esp. for something as pervasive as the splash screen) there was some bad judgment (aesthetic and otherwise) involved.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Which, apparently, was &#8217;nuff said, since the conversation faded out after that.<\/p>\n<p>For more on this kind of contorted female posing thing, check out <a href=\"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/23\/more-super-hero-posing-goodness.html\">More super-hero posing goodness<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/04\/30\/contorting-a-dead-sexy-horse.html\">Contorting a dead, sexy horse<\/a>, two entries on my main blog from a few months back.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Paragon Studios team does a &#8220;Freedom Friday&#8221; weekly quasi-chat on Google Plus, answering questions that people pose, etc. \u00a0Today, after getting my actual game question answer, I made the following observation: Just some feedback on the current splash screen, btw: it&#8217;s awful. \u00a0Not only am I less than thrilled with young Penelope Yin going &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2012\/06\/whats-the-matter-with-penelope-yin.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;What&#8217;s the Matter with Penelope Yin?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2058","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-character-design","category-city-of-heroes"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2058","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2058"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2058\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2065,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2058\/revisions\/2065"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2058"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2058"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2058"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}