{"id":3717,"date":"2024-02-10T15:41:33","date_gmt":"2024-02-10T22:41:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/?p=3717"},"modified":"2025-06-13T14:57:18","modified_gmt":"2025-06-13T21:57:18","slug":"dd-5e-rules-spells-call-lightning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2024\/02\/dd-5e-rules-spells-call-lightning.html","title":{"rendered":"D&#038;D 5e Rules &#8211; Spells: <i>Call Lightning!<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-2984\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-300x196.webp\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-300x196.webp 300w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-650x425.webp 650w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-768x502.webp 768w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-1200x784.webp 1200w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules.webp 1300w\" alt=\"Know the Rules\" width=\"300\" height=\"196\" \/><em><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2022\/09\/dd-5e-rules-a-prologue.html\">Part of an ongoing series of <strong>5e (2014)<\/strong> Rules notes.<\/a>\u00a0 <span style=\"color: #800000;\">See the end of the post for notes on <strong>5.5e (2024)<\/strong> rules.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>I won&#8217;t say that\u00a0<em>Call Lightning<\/em> is an overrated spell, but it&#8217;s a spell that sounds a lot more cool and flexible and awe-inspiring than it actually turns out to be when you try to play with it (properly). It comes across as an alternative to <em>Fireball <\/em>for Druids, also a 3rd Level Conjuration, but it most certainly is not.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s start with <a href=\"https:\/\/5thsrd.org\/spellcasting\/spells\/call_lightning\/\">the description<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Range: 120 feet<\/p>\n<p>A storm cloud appears in the shape of a Cylinder that is 10 feet tall with a 60-foot radius, centered on a point you can see within range directly above you. The spell fails if you can\u2019t see a point in the air where the storm cloud could appear (for example, if you are in a room that can\u2019t accommodate the cloud).<\/p>\n<p>When you cast the spell, choose a point you can see under the cloud. A bolt of lightning flashes down from the cloud to that point. Each creature\u00a0within 5 feet of that point\u00a0must make a Dexterity saving throw. A creature takes 3d10 lightning damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one. On each of your turns until the spell ends, you can use your action to call down lightning in this way again, targeting the same point or a different one.<\/p>\n<p>If you are outdoors in stormy conditions when you cast this spell, the spell gives you control over the existing storm instead of creating a new one. Under such Conditions, the spell\u2019s damage increases by 1d10.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This one is a bit more complex than it seems,\u00a0<i>and<\/i> it &#8220;suffers&#8221; by having had its text significantly updated some time into the 5e era; a lot of websites discussing the spell (from when 5e first launched) do <i>not<\/i> have the spell described correctly . The original text got confusing about the height of the cloud.<\/p>\n<p>So, you need to be in a room or area that has\u00a0<b>at least ten feet of clearance<\/b> (to accommodate the height of the cloud). As an example, my kitchen\/family room ceiling is only 8 feet high. So this will be most useful<strong> out of doors<\/strong>, in tall caverns, or in Intentionally Impressive Rooms (throne rooms, cathedrals, etc.).<\/p>\n<p>(I have seen suggests that if the room is only 10 feet high then the area concerned is all in cloud and thus can&#8217;t be seen into. That effect is not explicitly called out, and, frankly, gets into complications I&#8217;d rather avoid. If I were to do it, rather than blocking vision I&#8217;d make the area into a Dim situation, impacting Perception checks in and out, but not much more).<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 480px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i.makeagif.com\/media\/12-27-2022\/dn5EAk.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"270\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">You don&#8217;t need quite this much space, but almost.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The rules indicate the room\/space <strong>must accommodate the cloud<\/strong>. That means an interior room has to be\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rpg.stackexchange.com\/a\/163592\/67995\">not just tall enough, but wide enough<\/a> to accommodate a 60-foot radius, i.e.,\u00a0<b>120 feet wide<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>The cloud gets centered on a point no more than 120 feet away (a grid intersection, not a square, if you are playing on a grid), and as noted, has a radius of 60 feet.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 345px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media1.tenor.com\/m\/51v7feEeNZMAAAAC\/lightning-flash.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"345\" height=\"498\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Impress your friends!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>On each turn, the caster can choose a point (again, a grid intersection, not a square), and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rpg.stackexchange.com\/a\/102993\/67995\">everyone in a 5-foot radius of that point (i.e., the four squares around that intersection)<\/a>\u00a0get zorched. The point can be anywhere under that 60-foot radius cloud, and can be moved around (as an Action) each turn. (I would rule that any area to be zorched must be under the cloud.)<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a Concentration spell, so you can keep it going for up to 10 minutes, or until someone figures out you&#8217;re the one doing it and starts trying to break your concentration.<\/p>\n<h1><em>Call Lightning<\/em> vs. <em>Fireball<\/em><\/h1>\n<p>I mean, this doesn&#8217;t\u00a0<em>have<\/em> to be a competition &#8230; but, frankly, the subject is going to come up.<\/p>\n<h5>Advantages of<em> Call Lightning<\/em><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>Lasts for 10 minutes (of Concentration)<\/li>\n<li>You can hit the same target every. single. round. That&#8217;s a lot of 3d10s over 10 minutes.<\/li>\n<li>Works anywhere under a 60 foot radius<\/li>\n<li>Range is only 120 feet, but with a 60 foot radius from that point.<\/li>\n<li>Lightning damage is less resisted than fire.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h5>Advantages of <em>Fireball<\/em><\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li>8d6 beats 3d10 (the first time).<\/li>\n<li>Can be cast anywhere, not just in a space that will fit a cloud 10 feet high and 120 feet across.<\/li>\n<li>Hits its entire area upon casting.<\/li>\n<li>Range is 150 feet (but only a 20 foot radius from that point).<\/li>\n<li>LoS not necessary for effect; can affect targets around a corner.<\/li>\n<li>Can set stuff on fire.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Call it anecdata, but during a 2\u00bd year weekly campaign, our Druid had an opportunity to cast <i>Call Lightning <\/i>maybe &#8230; twice? Whereas our Sorcerer let loose with a Fireball at least every second or third session.<\/p>\n<p>That said, if the opportunity does arise, and if it&#8217;s thematically proper to the character,\u00a0<em>Call Lightning<\/em> can be a ton of fun to cast.<\/p>\n<h1><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Any changes in 5.5e?<\/span><\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/dnd-55-2024-logo.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-4197\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/dnd-55-2024-logo.png\" alt=\"dnd 5.5\/2024\" width=\"215\" height=\"310\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/dnd-55-2024-logo.png 215w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/dnd-55-2024-logo-208x300.png 208w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 215px) 85vw, 215px\" \/><\/a>Maybe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">The <a style=\"color: #800000;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dndbeyond.com\/sources\/dnd\/br-2024\/spell-descriptions#CallLightning\">basic language of the spell<\/a> is fairly similar in 5.5e (2024): <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>The storm cloud<\/strong>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">A storm cloud appears at a point within range that you can see above yourself. It takes the shape of a Cylinder that is 10 feet tall with a 60-foot radius.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Here&#8217;s the main difference: there&#8217;s no longer any language about the spell failing if the room is not large enough to accommodate such a cylinder. Does it? Better ask your DM first to make a ruling before you assume it does (or doesn&#8217;t). If the limitation has actually been eliminated, this is a much more useful spell.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>The zorching<\/strong>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">When you cast the spell, choose a point you can see under the cloud. A lightning bolt shoots from the cloud to that point. Each creature within 5 feet of that point makes a Dexterity saving throw, taking 3d10 Lightning damage on a failed save or half as much damage on a successful one.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Until the spell ends, you can take a Magic action to call down lightning in that way again, targeting the same point or a different one.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">While edited a bit from the 5e text (and calling in the new <em>Magic<\/em> action), everything else here is the same. The spell also has the added language for using a natural storm out of doors.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">So, is there a change? There&#8217;s probably someplace in the 5.5e rules I haven&#8217;t run across about how AoEs that don&#8217;t fit in the space work. Barring that (and not seeing any commentary online), I would, again, discuss it with your DM about whether they want to allow you to blanket any 60-foot radius area with four-squares-at-a-time lightning bolts for ten minutes. As far as I can tell,\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Summoning lightning sounds really cool. And it is. 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