{"id":3815,"date":"2024-02-20T17:50:12","date_gmt":"2024-02-21T00:50:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/?p=3815"},"modified":"2024-02-20T17:51:52","modified_gmt":"2024-02-21T00:51:52","slug":"dd-5e-rules-spells-spiritual-weapon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2024\/02\/dd-5e-rules-spells-spiritual-weapon.html","title":{"rendered":"D&#038;D 5e Rules &#8211; Spells: <i>Spiritual Weapon!<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules.webp\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-2984\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-300x196.webp\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-300x196.webp 300w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-650x425.webp 650w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-768x502.webp 768w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules-1200x784.webp 1200w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Know-the-rules.webp 1300w\" alt=\"Know the Rules\" width=\"300\" height=\"196\" \/><\/a><em><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2022\/09\/dd-5e-rules-a-prologue.html\">Part of an ongoing series of 5e Rules notes.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Since I&#8217;ve had players pick this, because it sounds very cool (and it can be), I had to do some digging into some of the aspects of\u00a0<em>Spiritual Weapon\u00a0<\/em>that are not completely obvious.<\/p>\n<h1>Spiritual Weapon is weird<\/h1>\n<p>No, seriously. But that&#8217;s because people see &#8220;weapon&#8221; and try to (incorrectly) apply all sorts of melee combat weapon rules and assumptions to it. It&#8217;s not:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Spiritual Weapon is a <i>multi-round melee attack spell<\/i><br \/>\n<\/strong><strong>that\u00a0<i>looks\u00a0<\/i>like a weapon because that&#8217;s really cool.\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If you just keep that in mind, you can ignore the whole rest of this post.<\/p>\n<h1>The Nuts and Bolts<\/h1>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/roll20.net\/compendium\/dnd5e\/Spiritual%20Weapon#content\">Base spell<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Casting Time: 1 Bonus Action<br \/>\nRange: 60 feet<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3817\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3817\" style=\"width: 256px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Spiritual-Weapon-hammer.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3817\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Spiritual-Weapon-hammer.png\" alt=\"Spiritual Weapon token\" width=\"256\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Spiritual-Weapon-hammer.png 256w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Spiritual-Weapon-hammer-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Spiritual-Weapon-hammer-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 256px) 85vw, 256px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3817\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Spiritual Weapon token<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>You create a\u00a0floating, spectral weapon\u00a0within range that lasts for the Duration or until you cast this spell again. When you cast the spell, you can make a\u00a0melee spell attack\u2060\u2060\u00a0against a creature within 5 feet of the weapon. On a hit, the target takes\u00a0force damage\u00a0equal to 1d8 + your Spellcasting Ability modifier.<\/p>\n<p>As a Bonus Action on your turn\u2060, you can move the weapon up to 20 feet and repeat the attack\u2060 against a creature within 5 feet of it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The first confusion comes when wondering whether on Round 1 you simply cast it as your BA, and then need to take a regular Attack action to wield it, or not. The consensus wisdom out there is &#8220;or not&#8221;:\u00a0 the attack is also part of the Bonus Action (as it is in subsequent rounds), which\u00a0 means the following &#8220;what can you do with it when?&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><b>Round 1<\/b>: As a Bonus Action: cast up to 60 feet away + attack.<\/p>\n<p><b>Rounds 2ff<\/b>: As a Bonus Action: move it up to 20 feet + attack.<\/p>\n<p>And that lasts either until you dispel it or 1 minute (10 rounds).<\/p>\n<h1>These Are Not the Weapons You&#8217;re Looking For<\/h1>\n<p>&#8220;But! But!&#8221; people sputter, &#8220;It&#8217;s a\u00a0<i>weapon\u00a0<\/i>attacking! That has to happen during a normal Action as an attack! You can&#8217;t have a spell doing a weapon attack and then do a different weapon attack or even a spell-cast, on the same turn!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yes. Yes you can. Because what you <em>see<\/em> isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s really happening. <em>It&#8217;s not actually a weapon<\/em>, not matter what it says in the name.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/these-are-not-the-weapons-you-are-looking-for.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3819\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/these-are-not-the-weapons-you-are-looking-for-650x274.jpg\" alt=\"these are not the weapons you are looking for\" width=\"650\" height=\"274\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/these-are-not-the-weapons-you-are-looking-for-650x274.jpg 650w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/these-are-not-the-weapons-you-are-looking-for-300x126.jpg 300w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/these-are-not-the-weapons-you-are-looking-for-768x323.jpg 768w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/these-are-not-the-weapons-you-are-looking-for.jpg 770w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Think of the Spiritual Weapon as\u00a0<strong><i>a deconstructed magical attack spell<\/i><\/strong>. Nobody would question the ability to manifest a <i>magical zap spell<\/i> <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">and<\/span> attack with it that very same Bonus Action. Which is what you&#8217;re actually doing with <em>Spiritual Weapon,<\/em> but the <i>magical zap spell<\/i>\u00a0looks and moves\u00a0<i>like\u00a0<\/i>a weapon, which confuses the heck out of people, because they want to treat it as a glowing animated physical weapon that does physical damage.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s not. It is, quite literally &#8220;a floating, spectral weapon&#8221; that does &#8220;force damage&#8221; &#8212; and the likelihood of hitting with it has nothing to do with your physical melee abilities (Strength and Dexterity), but your <i>melee <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">spell<\/span><\/i>\u00a0abilities.<\/p>\n<h2>So while you&#8217;re doing Spiritual Weapon, what else can you do?<\/h2>\n<p>Well, on the round you cast it, that only burns your Bonus Action. So you have your full normal Movement and an Action to work with.<\/p>\n<p>Except, regarding\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2024\/02\/dd-5e-rules-spells-spellcasting-per-turn.html\">casting multiple spells in a turn<\/a>,\u00a0remember\u00a0&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If you want to Cast a Spell that has a casting time of 1 Bonus Action, remember that you can\u2019t cast any other Spells before or after it on the same turn, except for Cantrips with a Casting Time of 1 Action.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So on that\u00a0<u>initial round<\/u>\u00a0when you cast the <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em>, you can&#8217;t do any other\u00a0<i>spells<\/i> except a 1-Action casting time Cantrip. You can still move around, shoot your bow, swing your sword, Hide, etc.<\/p>\n<p>On\u00a0<u>subsequent rounds<\/u>, though, you\u00a0<i>can<\/i>\u00a0be casting spells during your normal Action, because the move-and-attack of the Spiritual Weapon is\u00a0<em>not\u00a0a casting of a spell<\/em>. As noted in the <a href=\"https:\/\/media.wizards.com\/2016\/downloads\/DND\/SA-Compendium.pdf\">Sage Advice\u00a0 Compendium<\/a> (p. 12)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Until <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> ends, it gives you the option of controlling its\u00a0 spectral weapon as a Bonus Action. That Bonus Action does not involve casting a spell, despite the fact that it\u2019s granted by a spell, so you can control the weapon and cast whatever spell you like on the same turn.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In that same context, also note that <i>Spiritual Weapon <\/i>is\u00a0<i>not\u00a0a Concentration spell<\/i>. So even if the caster is attacked or otherwise distracted, that does not affect the spell, and casting the <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> does not interfere with other Concentration spells you already have up. (One could even argue that, should the caster go unconscious, the <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> would simply remain there, floating &#8212; it can&#8217;t attack without command &#8212; until the caster was revived if within the 1 minute spell duration.)<\/p>\n<h1>There Are No Stupid Questions About Spiritual Weapon<\/h1>\n<p>Well, maybe a few.<\/p>\n<h2>Does moving away from a <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> trigger an Opportunity Attack?<\/h2>\n<p>No. The <i>Spiritual Weapon <\/i>is not a creature of itself (it has no volition or reaction).\u00a0 And it only attacks during a Bonus Action: <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2022\/09\/dd-5e-rules-multiattack-extra-attack-and-attacks-of-opportunity.html\">Opportunity Attacks<\/a> are a <em>Re<\/em>action.<\/p>\n<h2>Is this a magical weapon I see before me?<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rpg.stackexchange.com\/a\/89931\/67995\">No, because it&#8217;s not a physical object, thus not actually a weapon<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Again, from\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/5thsrd.org\/spellcasting\/spells\/spiritual_weapon\/#:~:text=The%20weapon%20can%20take%20whatever%20form%20you%20choose.%20Clerics%20of%20deities%20who%20are%20associated%20with%20a%20particular%20weapon%20(as%20St.%20Cuthbert%20is%20known%20for%20his%20mace%20and%20Thor%20for%20his%20hammer)%20make%20this%20spell%27s%20effect%20resemble%20that%20weapon.\">the spell text<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Clerics of deities who are associated with a particular weapon (as St. Cuthbert is known for his mace and Thor for his hammer) make this spell&#8217;s effect resemble that weapon.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3816\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3816\" style=\"width: 256px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/spiritual-weapon-faith-token.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3816\" src=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/spiritual-weapon-faith-token.png\" alt=\"Spiritual Weapon token\" width=\"256\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/spiritual-weapon-faith-token.png 256w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/spiritual-weapon-faith-token-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/spiritual-weapon-faith-token-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 256px) 85vw, 256px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3816\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Another Spiritual Weapon token<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&#8220;Effect resemble.&#8221; The shape and appearance of the SW is a &#8220;spell effect,&#8221; not actual substance.<\/p>\n<p>Also, it&#8217;s an Evocation spell, one to &#8220;manipulate magical energy to produce a desired effect&#8221;; it is not a Conjuration which &#8220;involve the transportation of objects&#8221; or a Transmutation which can &#8220;change the properties of a &#8230; object.&#8221; Again, no <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">object<\/span>, just <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">effect<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>Remember that deconstruction mantra? If this was summoning a <em>magical zap bolt<\/em> that flitted about the field of combat, it would clearly not be thought of as a magical weapon. That&#8217;s basically what <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> is, a spell that <i>resembles<\/i>\u00a0an actual weapon because that&#8217;s cool.<\/p>\n<h2>Can someone hold onto the <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> as it&#8217;s moved and essentially fly like Thor?<\/h2>\n<p>(People have actually asked this question.)<\/p>\n<p>No. As just noted, the SW is a\u00a0<i>spectral\u00a0<\/i>weapon. It has no\u00a0<i>substance<\/i> to grasp or hold onto. It invokes Force damage, but you can&#8217;t grab onto that.<\/p>\n<h2>Can a person move through the square occupied by a <em>Spiritual Weapon?<\/em><\/h2>\n<p>Yes.\u00a0The rules about\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2024\/01\/dd-5e-rules-moving-through-a-hostile-creatures-space.html\">moving through squares occupied by other creatures<\/a>\u00a0only apply to\u00a0<i>creatures<\/i>. The <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> is not a creature. It has no substance to block someone, only doing Force damage when it attacks (which, to make it worse, it can&#8217;t do during the part of a round when someone would be moving through its square).<\/p>\n<p>Now, that said, a lot of people would be naturally hesitant to do such a thing, even if they knew the spell. So there&#8217;s some role-playing involved here, and I&#8217;d suggest the average peasant \/ Kobold \/ etc. would just sort of naturally avoid running through a square occupied by a mystical floating weapon (or a spectral appearance of same) unless they had no other choice.<\/p>\n<p>For that matter, there&#8217;s nothing to stop a person (friend or enemy) from\u00a0<i>ending or pausing movement<\/i> in the same square as the weapon, nor from the caster from moving it into an occupied square (again, either by a friend or an enemy). It would not make attacks by the <em>Spiritual Weapon<\/em> any more likely or powerful, though it might be kind of distracting.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s a spirit! It&#8217;s a weapon! It&#8217;s a dessert topping! 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