{"id":395,"date":"2006-01-07T11:09:49","date_gmt":"2006-01-07T17:09:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp\/2006\/01\/stealth-nerf\/"},"modified":"2006-01-07T11:09:49","modified_gmt":"2006-01-07T17:09:49","slug":"stealth-nerf","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2006\/01\/stealth-nerf.html","title":{"rendered":"Stealth nerf?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/random.average-bear.com\/archive\/005315.html#comments\">Word has it<\/a> that the next patch set will include a nerf such that glowies cannot be clicked on while stealthed or phased.<br \/>\nHrm.<br \/>\nFrom a gameplay standpoint, that really screws up a lot of strategies (which seems to be the point, of course, making unfair to (everyone say it together) &#8220;get XP without risk.&#8221;  (Never mind the number of higher level villains that see right through stealth.)<br \/>\nFrom a &#8220;reality&#8221; standpoint, it makes limited sense.  The &#8220;I&#8217;m going to stand in the middle of all these guys and rifle this file cabinet and they don&#8217;t bat an eyelash&#8221; sort of scenario never made sense &#8230;<br \/>\nThough it also can depend on how one envisions the power sets as working.  Is Stealth actually some sort of visual obscuring power (e.g., Steaming Cloud &#8212; though why at least the bad guys wouldn&#8217;t say, &#8220;Hey, what&#8217;s that cloud doing in the middle of the hallway?&#8221; is beyond me), or is it an abstraction of &#8220;I&#8217;m really sneaky\/ninja-like&#8221;?  Or, heck, &#8220;I&#8217;m actually a master of disguise and have made myself up to look like these bad guys so that they don&#8217;t notice me unless I get too close&#8221;?  Something to make up for the fact that there&#8217;s no game mechanism to throw a rock over to the other side of the room and get everyone&#8217;s attention focused over there.<br \/>\nE.g. Honeygun didn&#8217;t really have a stealth cloak.  She was just really good at sneaking around, like a trained sniper.  Her ability to sneak up should be a bit different and have different parameters than other interpretations of the power.<br \/>\nFrom a &#8220;reality&#8221; standpoint, each of those different interpretatoins of Stealth should play differently.<br \/>\nOn the other hand, since we can&#8217;t actually play those differences, the abstraction seems to work.  And, really, the ability to Stealth through a mission only helps so much.  It&#8217;s often more of a convenience (turning a given TF from 8 hours to 6 hours or something like that) than a must-have.<br \/>\nAs for Phasing &#8212; well, that makes a measure of sense (though often there&#8217;s a sort of &#8220;I make my hands solid enough to be able to pick the safe&#8221; out in the comics).<br \/>\nI also haven&#8217;t heard how this is going to impact Invis.  Given that, unlike Stealth, Group Invis is not a toggle, if I&#8217;m using GI does that means I have to wait until it wears off to click the glowie?<br \/>\nAs with most nerfs, it&#8217;s workable around, with a bit of effort and a bit of (yes) extra risk.  People get through missions without stealth powers all the time.  But it&#8217;s another case of fixing a &#8220;problem&#8221; that I don&#8217;t agree exists.  Unless the <em>only <\/em>way one can have a legitimate super-hero adventure is to duke things out all the time, being part of the (e.g.) Legion Espionage Squad should be as good a way to adventure in Paragon as any other.  And I say that as someone whose Main uses Group Invis extensively, but who has a whole series of other heroes who wouldn&#8217;t dream of it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Word has it that the next patch set will include a nerf such that glowies cannot be clicked on while stealthed or phased. Hrm. From a gameplay standpoint, that really screws up a lot of strategies (which seems to be the point, of course, making unfair to (everyone say it together) &#8220;get XP without risk.&#8221; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/2006\/01\/stealth-nerf.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Stealth nerf?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":352,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-395","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-resources-rules"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/395","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/352"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=395"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/395\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=395"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=395"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=395"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}