{"id":10030,"date":"2006-09-20T13:08:06","date_gmt":"2006-09-20T20:08:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2006\/09\/20\/end-of-the-road.html"},"modified":"2006-09-20T13:08:06","modified_gmt":"2006-09-20T20:08:06","slug":"end_of_the_road","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/09\/20\/end_of_the_road.html","title":{"rendered":"End of the road"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So we have a plan on cars, you see? <\/p>\n<p>Average car, I think, will last you six, seven, eight years before you start having to worry about serious problems, or, at least, a bunch of minor &#8220;parts are snapping \/ falling off&#8221; problems. <\/p>\n<p>So here&#8217;s what we do. We buy Car A with a 3-4 year loan. Allocate the money for the loan out of Margie&#8217;s paycheck, direct deposit, to an account that the car loan is autopaid (so to speak) from. We usually go heavy on the amount, so that a bit more accumulates than is withdrawn, and eventually we pull that out and make an extra payment. <\/p>\n<p>In 3-4 years, the car is paid off. And so now we can buy Car B (i.e., replace a car), applying the old car payment amount (already budgeted) to the new one. <\/p>\n<p>And in 3-4 years, that&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/09\/12\/chching_vroomvr.html\" target=\"_blank\">paid off<\/a>, then we go back to Car A, which is now, at a minimum (because there&#8217;s usually a gap here) six years old, probably a more, and ready to be replaced. <\/p>\n<p>On the one hand, it feels profligate.  On the other hand, I know people who replace their cars every 2-3 years.  And on much nicer cars than I&#8217;m ever likely to buy.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve done this a couple of cycles now &#8212; the Saturn in &#8217;94, then replacing Margie&#8217;s Acura with the van in &#8217;99, then replacing the Saturn with the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/09\/28\/words_mean_thin_9.html\" target=\"_blank\">zippy<\/a> Subaru in &#8217;03 (!). And now &#8230; <\/p>\n<p>Well, with Doyce having gone out and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.average-bear.com\/archive\/008984.html#8984\" target=\"_blank\">bought a new car<\/a> (a replacement for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/11\/05\/shake_on_it.html\" target=\"_blank\">Saturn<\/a>, in fact &#8212; you know, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/09\/28\/color_blind.html\" target=\"_blank\">pink<\/a> one), we&#8217;ve been thinking of cars, and thinking of replacing the van, now going on seven (2000 Toyota Sienna, but bought in late 1999).<br \/>\nBut I had no idea what the remaining tally was on the loan on the Subaru. Money never crosses our hands, just statements from the savings account. Weird, I know, but it works. <\/p>\n<p>Margie says, &#8220;Well, let&#8217;s do another one of those extra payment things,&#8221; so I agree, and today she goes by the credit union and pulls out the excess money (post-payment) from the account, and then heads over to Chase to figure out how to make a deposit on it (Chase being the second or third owner of the car loan.) <\/p>\n<p>And I get a call, from her. &#8220;Hey, honey,&#8221; she asks.  &#8220;Want me to pay off the car?&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Huh?&#8221; Ah, that witty repartee. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, I can pay it off for what I have in my pocket.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Really?&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Really.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Um &#8230; do it.&#8221; <\/p>\n<div class=\"img-shadow-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"WIDTH: 282px; HEIGHT: 182px\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/gallery\/albums\/2003-10\/IMG_0015.jpg\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p>Thing is, though I knew the Sienna was getting old enough (it&#8217;s the official &#8220;We&#8217;re Having a Baby, So We Need a Mini-Van&#8221; purchase), I had no idea that the Subaru was that old. When I was writing about it above, I almost put down I&#8217;d gotten it in &#8217;05, then realized that couldn&#8217;t be right, and made it &#8217;04. Try <u>&#8217;03<\/u>. In fact, it will be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2003\/09\/26\/the_car.html\" target=\"_blank\">three years next Tuesday<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>(See? <em>This<\/em> is why I have a blog.) <\/p>\n<p>So, Margie still has a chunk of cash in her hand. And, until we start paying on something new, we&#8217;re still allocating out car payments into that other account, so we&#8217;ll have a nice down payment. <\/p>\n<p>Though we might not have that long. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So, you know,&#8221; Margie says, &#8220;what this means we&#8217;re going to be doing this weekend.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What, someone&#8217;s angling for an early birthday present?&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Laughter. <\/p>\n<p>(No, I don&#8217;t expect to buy a new car this weekend.  But starting to look?  Yeah, maybe &#8230;)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So we have a plan on cars, you see? 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