{"id":10430,"date":"2007-01-16T13:47:04","date_gmt":"2007-01-16T20:47:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2007\/01\/16\/new-comment-spam-measures-tinyturing-vs-typekey.html"},"modified":"2007-01-16T13:47:04","modified_gmt":"2007-01-16T20:47:04","slug":"new_comment_spam_measures","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/01\/16\/new_comment_spam_measures.html","title":{"rendered":"New comment spam measures &#8211; TinyTuring vs TypeKey"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"img-shadow-right\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Spam, spam, spam, spam ...\" height=\"104\" alt=\"spam\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/spam.jpg\" width=\"104\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p>So back in April 2005 I <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/04\/16\/your_registrati.html\" target=\"_blank\">implemented TypeKey user authentication<\/a> on my various Movable Type blogs here to help combat comment spam &#8212; folks (and bots) entering in comments with links to commercial web sites (usually unsavory ones touting games of chance and medications, not to mention pr0n). It&#8217;s actually been very successful &#8212; most comment spammers get blocked at the get-go, such that I&#8217;ve gotten only a literal half-dozen or so<br \/>\ncomment spams in that year and a half. <\/p>\n<p>Alas, TypeKey is occasionally cranky (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/08\/30\/typekey.html\" target=\"_blank\">slow<\/a>, or even <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/08\/30\/more_outages.html\" target=\"_blank\">non<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/04\/10\/please_stand_by.html\" target=\"_blank\">responsive<\/a>, not to mention not happy in IE with cross-domain scripting), and some folks dislike having to register in that fashion. So <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/08\/25\/plug_it_in_plug_2.html\" target=\"_blank\">back<br \/>\nin August I implemented<\/a> it on all my MT blogs except this, my main one. TinyTuring is sort of a simplified CAPTCHA &#8212; at the bottom of the comment form is a little line that says something like &#8220;<strong>Z<\/strong>ap comment spam by entering the first letter of this sentence,&#8221; prompting you to enter a &#8220;Z.&#8221; There are, of course, 25 other options. It&#8217;s easy, it&#8217;s simple to implement (assuming your templates<br \/>\nare in any sort of decent shape), and it&#8217;s even usable by the visually impaired. And it&#8217;s worked pretty solidly on my blogs and on BD&#8217;s. <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve finally gotten around to implementing it here on DDtB (since my templates are <em>not<\/em> in a decent shape). I still am still supporting TypeKey (and there are certain spam rating advantages to using it, not to mention convenience of single-sign-on), but regardless of whether you sign in to TypeKey, you <em>will<\/em> need to enter in that little TinyTuring letter at the bottom of the comment in order for it to get posted. <\/p>\n<p>(There is still a glitch with the Preview screen for comments that isn&#8217;t allowing posts directly from there. That affects, I think, a small population here, but just FYI.) <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll be watching to see if comment spam starts back being a problem &#8212; 99.999% of spammers are bots, but someone can manually work around TinyTuring with no difficulty. If I end up having to do a lot of spam clean-up, I&#8217;ll be dropping TT again for TK. But let&#8217;s see if this makes life here a bit easier on all y&#8217;all. <\/p>\n<p>Let me know. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So back in April 2005 I implemented TypeKey user authentication on my various Movable Type blogs here to help combat comment spam &#8212; folks (and bots) entering in comments&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10430","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging","category-spam"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8717,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/08\/30\/typekey.html","url_meta":{"origin":10430,"position":0},"title":"Typekey","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 30-Aug-05 9:37am","format":false,"excerpt":"I've had Typekey authentication running here since April, which has had a dramatic (positive) effect on comment spam. It's also been a solid performer. Until now. At the moment, I...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blogging &amp; Internet&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Blogging &amp; Internet","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5402,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2004\/03\/17\/mt_30_news.html","url_meta":{"origin":10430,"position":1},"title":"MT 3.0 news","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 17-Mar-04 8:00am","format":false,"excerpt":"MT 3.0 is going into expanded alpha testing. Huzzah. 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I'm...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blogging &amp; Internet&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Blogging &amp; Internet","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":7260,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2005\/04\/13\/the_comment_reg.html","url_meta":{"origin":10430,"position":4},"title":"The Comment Registration Act of 2005","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 13-Apr-05 11:19am","format":false,"excerpt":"Dammit. Another burst of comment spam today. 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