{"id":11192,"date":"2007-03-20T22:27:43","date_gmt":"2007-03-21T05:27:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2007\/03\/20\/throwing-down-the-ecclesiastical-gauntlet.html"},"modified":"2007-03-20T22:27:43","modified_gmt":"2007-03-21T05:27:43","slug":"throwing_down_the_ecclesi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/03\/20\/throwing_down_the_ecclesi.html","title":{"rendered":"Throwing down the ecclesiastical gauntlet"},"content":{"rendered":"<\/p>\n
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In the Episcopal Church meeting of the House of Bishops, the general response to the communique\/ultimatum of the Primates from the Tanzania meeting is “The Episcopal Church declines … courteously.” In particular, the “suggestion” from the Primates that dissenting dioceses be be given some sort of alternative “primatial oversight” from outside the Episcopal Church is soundly rejected for constitutional, historical, and theological reasons. Moneyquote<\/a>: <\/span><\/span> <\/p>\n

Most important of all it is spiritually unsound. The pastoral scheme encourages one of the worst tendencies of our Western culture, which is to break relationships when we find them difficult instead of doing the hard work necessary to repair them and be instruments of reconciliation. The real cultural phenomenon that threatens the spiritual life of our people, including marriage and family life, is the ease with which we choose to break our relationshipsand the vows that established them rather than seek the transformative power of the Gospel in them. We cannot accept what would be injurious to this Church and could well lead to its permanent division.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

While expressing a clear desire to continue within the Anglican Communion, the bishops made it clear that the Primates were making unwelcome and unworkable demands on the Episcopal Church. Bully for them. <\/p>\n

More details from The Daily Episcopalian<\/a> and The Episcopal Majority<\/a>. It will be interesting to see what the conservatives\/dissenters, both within the Episcopal Church and without have to say.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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