{"id":11262,"date":"2007-10-08T15:56:14","date_gmt":"2007-10-08T22:56:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2007\/10\/08\/mt-401-is-coming.html"},"modified":"2007-10-08T15:56:14","modified_gmt":"2007-10-08T22:56:14","slug":"mt_401_is_coming","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/10\/08\/mt_401_is_coming.html","title":{"rendered":"MT 4.0.1 is coming &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"img-shadow-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Movable Type 4\" style=\"WIDTH: 120px; HEIGHT: 60px\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/mt4.png\" \/><\/div>\n<p>&#8230;. well,&nbsp; it&#8217;s already out, but I&#8217;ve been holding off installing it.&nbsp; But <a href=\"http:\/\/www.average-bear.com\/archive\/009580.html#9580\" target=\"_blank\">now that Doyce has<\/a>, I probably need consider it.<\/p>\n<p>There are three basic concerns in such a conversion:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> Stuff that uses old plug-ins or features under Movable Type 3.x that won&#8217;t work under 4.x.&nbsp; Requires research and possibly workarounds.<\/li>\n<li> New stuff I&#8217;d want to use in 4.x that conflicts with stuff I&#8217;m currently doing (with the question of whether they can be used in a single blog or are installation-wide &#8212; the latter of which would ratchet up the pressure).<\/li>\n<li> If I want to make a &#8220;clean start&#8221; on a blog&#8217;s templates to use all the bright, shiny new technology, how long will it take me to come up with something I like the look of (and that won&#8217;t be broken by my past blogging tweaks).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>The last item is, in some ways, independent.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t *have* to make a clean start.&nbsp; Maybe.<\/p>\n<p>I actually have several blogs here, which is what makes the major upgrade (or apprehensions about it) the most troubling, since I don&#8217;t want to leave any of them up in the air during the transition.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/\" target=\"_blank\">***Dave Does the Blog<\/a>:&nbsp; This baby&#8217;s got template coding, post styles, CSS tweaks, and add-ons\/plug-ins dating back to MT 1.x.&nbsp; I really want to (as Doyce was suggesting) start clean, get rid of a lot of the cruft and stuff polluting the sidebars, etc.&nbsp; But I need to look very carefully at the plug-ins I use (already largely cleaned out, but &#8230;), and the CSS styles I&#8217;ve embedded into the posts&nbsp;in particular.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/heroes\/\" target=\"_blank\">Blog of Heroes<\/a>:&nbsp; While this is a relatively old blog, I&#8217;ve not done anything fancy with the coding.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t expect it would take long to get it looking &#8220;production&#8221; quality.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.boulderdude.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Boulder Dude<\/a>:&nbsp; BD&#8217;s blog is hosted under my installation.&nbsp; It&#8217;s pretty close to vanilla, and it could be converted over as-is, I suspect.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/doingwrite\/\" target=\"_blank\">Doing Write<\/a>: Nearly vanilla late-model templates, so not a big worry.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/mt\/mt.cgi?__mode=menu&amp;blog_id=9\" target=\"_blank\">Margie&#8217;s Kitchen<\/a>:&nbsp; An older blog, not very customized.&nbsp; It would probably convert fairly cleanly.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wist.info\/\" target=\"_blank\">WIST<\/a>:&nbsp; On the one hand, I have been very twisted in how I implemented this, forcing some square corners into the round holes.&nbsp; On the other hand, it&#8217;s a pretty recent implementation, and I only made some very small CSS tweaks.&nbsp; It should convert\/upgrade, using the current templates, without problems.<\/p>\n<p>I also have some closed\/private blog installs for <em>Catspaw <\/em>(two versions) that would probably not work out of the box &#8212; but I&#8217;m not as worried about that at the moment, both because of my general sloth on the project (bows head in shame) and because I have a big manuscript print-out I could work from without too much initial trouble.<\/p>\n<p>So I would want to do a fair amount of research work on DDtB before I converted, then figure on another several hours post-conversion cleaning it back up into shape.&nbsp; 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