{"id":11412,"date":"2007-09-03T23:31:04","date_gmt":"2007-09-04T06:31:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2007\/09\/03\/its-not-being-scriptural-if-you-threaten-not-to-be.html"},"modified":"2007-09-03T23:31:04","modified_gmt":"2007-09-04T06:31:04","slug":"its_not_being_scriptural","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/09\/03\/its_not_being_scriptural.html","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s not being &#8220;Scriptural&#8221; if you threaten not to be"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Y&#8217;know, when you&#8217;re a politician and&nbsp;respond to something you claim to consider to be <a href=\"http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/ci_6773515\" target=\"_blank\">a personal attack<\/a> by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/search\/ci_6782060\" target=\"_blank\">attacking back<\/a>, I recommend two things:<\/p>\n<p>1.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t leave <a href=\"http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/search\/ci_6781394\" target=\"_blank\">voice mail messages<\/a> that can be played back and transcribed.<\/p>\n<p>2.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t make a big show of offering to deal with things in a brotherly, &#8220;Scriptural,&#8221; Christian, presumably-loving way &#8212; and then top it off with a threat that otherwise &#8220;<span id=\"redesign_default\">will be forced to take other steps, which I would rather not have to do.&#8221;&nbsp; I don&#8217;t recall Jesus suggesting you turn the other cheek but then kick &#8217;em in the nuts if they slap that one, too.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Nicely done, Rep. Doug Lamborn.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span id=\"redesign_default\"><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span><span id=\"redesign_default\"><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We felt very threatened and intimidated, and quite frankly, scared,&#8221; Anna Bartha said. &#8220;It was just not anything we would ever anticipate an elected official would pursue or a way that an elected official would conduct himself.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When asked whether his messages were threatening, Lamborn said: &#8220;No, that is ridiculous. My hope, I failed, but I had hoped to meet with them privately and confidentially because lying is a serious matter. &#8220;<\/p>\n<p>When asked what he meant when he said there would be &#8220;consequences,&#8221; Lamborn said: &#8220;When someone tells a lie, it just has bad consequences.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Three days after leaving the messages on the Barthas&#8217; voice mail, Lamborn wrote an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.denverpost.com\/ci_6773516\" target=\"_blank\">open letter<\/a> to Greg Garcia, chair of the El Paso County Republicans, asking him to investigate.<\/p>\n<p><\/span> <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And congratulations &#8212; you made <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/stories\/2007\/09\/03\/national\/main3228795.shtml\" target=\"_blank\">national news<\/a>, too!<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span> <\/p>\n<p><small><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;(via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boulderdude.com\/2007\/09\/another_week.html\" target=\"_blank\">BD<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Y&#8217;know, when you&#8217;re a politician and&nbsp;respond to something you claim to consider to be a personal attack by attacking back, I recommend two things: 1.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t leave voice mail messages&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[9,27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11412","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics-law","category-religion"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":129092,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/12\/08\/a-different-perspective-on-the-san-bernardino-attack.html","url_meta":{"origin":11412,"position":0},"title":"A different perspective on the San Bernardino attack","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 8-Dec-15 2:44pm","format":false,"excerpt":"A bit more complex analysis of \"global jihad\" and the terror threat from various factions and groups within Islam and the Middle East. 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