{"id":12028,"date":"2007-12-07T20:22:17","date_gmt":"2007-12-08T03:22:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2007\/12\/07\/jack-and-mitt.html"},"modified":"2007-12-07T20:22:17","modified_gmt":"2007-12-08T03:22:17","slug":"jack_and_mitt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/12\/07\/jack_and_mitt.html","title":{"rendered":"Jack and Mitt"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>BD has a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boulderdude.com\/2007\/12\/freedom_requires_slavery_just.html\" target=\"_blank\">lengthy post<\/a> comparing Jack Kennedy&#8217;s September 1960 speech defending his candidacy against anti-Catholicism, and Mitt Romney&#8217;s speech yesterday which was touted to do the same about his Mormonism.<\/p>\n<p>Reading the two full texts, some distinct difference come to light:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> Mitt&#8217;s speech is a looooooot longer.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve been reading <em>The Gettysburg Gospel<\/em>, and I&#8217;ve come to realize that a profoundly good speech tends to be a short one &#8212; hitting its theme, making its points, then getting out of the way before it gets into trouble or dilutes the message.&nbsp; Mitt&#8217;s so busy hitting every Republican and Religous Right talking point about religion in America that his speech ends up sounding like a thousand others we&#8217;ve heard in the last couple of decades.<\/li>\n<li> Kennedy made it clear he was the <em>Democratic<\/em> candidate for President, not the <em>Catholic<\/em> candidate.&nbsp; Mitt makes it clear he&#8217;s not the <em>Mormon<\/em> candidate, but the <em>Religious<\/em> candidate.&nbsp; While Jack allows, even in passing, for those of no faith (or no organized faith), Mitt hammers home that, by cracky, this is <em>a nation of religious people.<\/em>&nbsp; Now, I don&#8217;t know how Jack would have reacted to the idea of an atheist or agnostic presidential candidate, but you can&#8217;t prove it one way or another from his speech.&nbsp; Mitt, clearly, paints this as a government of the religious, by the religious, for the religious.&nbsp; Kennedy might have been nervous about Godless Communists, but he firmly stands on the Constitution.&nbsp; Mitt, who talks a lot more about golden-hazed tradition than the Constitution, stands, I suspect,&nbsp;with the man who introduced him,&nbsp; who famously suggested that atheists aren&#8217;t real citizens.<\/li>\n<li> That segues into another major difference &#8212; Jack drew a sharp line between church and state.&nbsp; Mitt, instead, conflates them, making the Founding Fathers old-time religious types, and mixing 18th Century Deism with 1950s &#8220;In God We Trust.&#8221;&nbsp; Jack was arguing his religion should make no difference.&nbsp; Mitt was arguing that his religion <em>does<\/em> make a difference, in the war against (ooooooh!) secularism.<\/li>\n<li> Jack Kennedy declined to talk about his religion, or his religious beliefs, aside from acknowledging his Catholicism.&nbsp; He&nbsp;spoke of his <em>civic<\/em> beliefs, instead.&nbsp; Mitt Romney talked at length about his theology, about what he thinks about Jesus, etc.&nbsp; Rather than standing on principle and telling the electorate to look at his record, not where he goes on Sunday mornings, Mitt panders to the religious to say, &#8220;Hey, we&#8217;re all in this together against those secularists and jihadis, right?&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I&#8217;ve read Jack Kennedy, and you, Mitt, are no Jack Kennedy.<\/p>\n<p><small><\/p>\n<p>If nothing else, thanks, BD, for pointing to the JFK speech &#8212; there are some excellent quotes to pull from it &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BD has a lengthy post comparing Jack Kennedy&#8217;s September 1960 speech defending his candidacy against anti-Catholicism, and Mitt Romney&#8217;s speech yesterday which was touted to do the same about his&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[54,27,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12028","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elections-2008","category-religion","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":27042,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/11\/its-not-easy-rolling-in-green.html","url_meta":{"origin":12028,"position":0},"title":"It&#39;s not easy, rolling in green","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 11-Mar-12 12:35pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Having a lot of money -- and a lot of rich donors -- can be a big advantage in a political campaign. 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