{"id":12043,"date":"2007-12-04T12:47:40","date_gmt":"2007-12-04T19:47:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2007\/12\/04\/winning-friends-and-kidnapping-people.html"},"modified":"2007-12-04T12:47:40","modified_gmt":"2007-12-04T19:47:40","slug":"winning_friends_and_kidna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/12\/04\/winning_friends_and_kidna.html","title":{"rendered":"Winning friends and kidnapping people"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/news\/world\/us_and_americas\/article2982640.ece\" target=\"_blank\">The US claims the right to kidnap British citizens<\/a> if they are wanted for crimes in the US.&nbsp; Isn&#8217;t that nice?<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>A senior lawyer for the American government has told the Court of Appeal in London that kidnapping foreign citizens is permissible under American law because the US Supreme Court has sanctioned it.<\/p>\n<p>The admission will alarm the British business community after the case of the so-called NatWest Three, bankers who were extradited to America on fraud charges. More than a dozen other British executives, including senior managers at British Airways and BAE Systems, are under investigation by the US authorities and could face criminal charges in America.<\/p>\n<p>Until now it was commonly assumed that US law permitted kidnapping only in the \u201cextraordinary rendition\u201d of terrorist suspects.<\/p>\n<p>The American government has for the first time made it clear in a British court that the law applies to anyone, British or otherwise, suspected of a crime by Washington.<\/p>\n<p>Legal experts confirmed this weekend that America viewed extradition as just one way of getting foreign suspects back to face trial. Rendition, or kidnapping, dates back to 19th-century bounty hunting and Washington believes it is still legitimate.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Yo-ho, me hearties, yo-ho!<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure which surprises me more &#8212; the US being so bald-faced arrogant&nbsp; in asserting this, or being so willing to admit it in court.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Shami Chakrabarti, director of the human rights group Liberty, said: \u201cThis law may date back to bounty hunting days, but they should sort it out if they claim to be a civilised nation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The US Justice Department declined to comment.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>But I&#8217;ll bet the lights are on late at State trying to figure out how to put a pleasant spin on it.<\/p>\n<p><small><\/p>\n<p>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/stupidevilbastard.com\/index\/seb\/comments\/holy_shit_think_i_will_have_to_cancel_that_trip_to_cuba\/\" target=\"_blank\">SEB<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The US claims the right to kidnap British citizens if they are wanted for crimes in the US.&nbsp; Isn&#8217;t that nice? 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It is expressly forbidden by the US Constitution because the Founders knew through hard experience how easy it is to exploit. The state (the courts and prosecutors) have unlimited resources compared to the average citizen. If\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":30435,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/10\/01\/is-parenthood-genetic-legal-emotional-magical-or-what.html","url_meta":{"origin":12043,"position":1},"title":"Is parenthood genetic, legal, emotional, magical, or what?","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 1-Oct-12 2:52pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Well, it's elements of all of the above, in varying mixes depending on the circumstance. 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