{"id":12093,"date":"2007-11-21T18:33:27","date_gmt":"2007-11-22T01:33:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2007\/11\/21\/note-to-texas-baptists-interreligious-really-does-mean-more-than-christian-interdenominational.html"},"modified":"2007-11-21T18:33:27","modified_gmt":"2007-11-22T01:33:27","slug":"note_to_texas_baptists_in","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2007\/11\/21\/note_to_texas_baptists_in.html","title":{"rendered":"Note to Texas Baptists: &#8220;Interreligious&#8221; really does mean more than &#8220;Christian Interdenominational&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Texas Baptists (at least the folks at Hyde Baptist in Austin, Texas) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.statesman.com\/search\/content\/news\/stories\/local\/11\/16\/1116hydepark.html\" target=\"_blank\">don&#8217;t seem to be aware of the distinction<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Austin Area Interreligious Ministries, the city&#8217;s largest interfaith organization, announced Thursday that its annual Thanksgiving celebration Sunday had to be moved because Hyde Park Baptist Church objected to non-Christians worshipping on its property.<\/p>\n<p>The group learned Wednesday that the rental space at the church-owned Quarries property in North Austin was no longer available because Hyde Park leaders had discovered that non-Christians, Muslims in particular, would be practicing their faith there. The event, now in its 23rd year, invites Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Bahais and others to worship together.<\/p>\n<p>Organizers had booked the gymnasium at the Quarries in July and made the interfaith aspect clear to Quarries staff at that time, said Simone Talma Flowers, Interreligious Ministries&#8217; interim director.<\/p>\n<p>Several Muslim groups were acting as this year&#8217;s hosts for the event. Kent Jennings, associate pastor of administration at Hyde Park, released a statement Thursday that said church leaders received a postcard about the service Monday and only then realized that it &#8220;was not a Christian oriented event.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The postcard also &#8220;promised space for Muslim Maghrib prayer and revealed that the event was co-hosted by the Central Texas Muslimaat, the Forum of Muslims for Unity, and the Institute of Interfaith Dialog,&#8221; according to Hyde Park&#8217;s statement.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Although individuals from all faiths are welcome to worship with us at Hyde Park Baptist Church, the church cannot provide space for the practice of these non-Christian religions on church property,&#8221; the statement said. &#8220;Hyde Park Baptist Church hopes that the AAIM and the community of faith will understand and be tolerant of our church&#8217;s beliefs that have resulted in this decision.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Yeah.&nbsp; <em>Be tolerant of our intolerance<\/em>.&nbsp; Sure.<\/p>\n<p>On the bright side, it provided an opportunity for some other folks to step up.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>With hundreds of people expected to attend and only a few days to find another site, Muslim organizer Shams Siddiqi said they couldn&#8217;t find another facility. That&#8217;s when leaders at Congregation Beth Israel, Austin&#8217;s largest synagogue, offered to host the celebration.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Symbolically, that&#8217;s a very good thing,&#8221; Siddiqi said of the joint Jewish-Muslim endeavor.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Indeed.<\/p>\n<p><small><\/p>\n<p>(via <a href=\"http:\/\/stupidevilbastard.com\/index\/seb\/comments\/texas_baptists_show_they_dont_understand_the_word_interfaith\/\" target=\"_blank\">Les<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Texas Baptists (at least the folks at Hyde Baptist in Austin, Texas) don&#8217;t seem to be aware of the distinction. 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