Full text<\/a>.<\/p>\nOne thing I found of value was his reframing of the whole situation (viz his former pastor). It is legitimate to ask how someone believes about certain issues — or even about how they believe about certain issues in comparison to someone with whom they associate. But the idea that someone either has to ignore differences they have, or throw someone off the wagon if there’s a disagreement, is a ludicrous proposition.<\/p>\n
To wit, I have friends, and family, who hold views I disagree with. In some cases, vehemently. Like Obama, I’ve had relatives who I’ve loved dearly, but who have not been politically correct (to say the least), or even held beliefs, or expressed stereotypes or epithets that “made me cringe.” I’ve had friends who I care for a lot who’ve held positions, or said things, or even done things that I disagree with. Sometimes vehemently.<\/p>\n
If I were running for President, it would be perfectly legitimate to say, “Hey, Dave, you claim this person is your friend, or you say you’re close to this other person over here, or this guy supports your candidacy. Well, they said this <\/em>and this <\/em>and this<\/em>, and, by the way, also say that<\/em>. Is that how you feel?” That’s what Barack has done in the current situation (though not, I’ll note, McCain with his embarrassing supporters) It’s even legit to say, “So, what role is this person going to hold in your administration?” <\/p>\nIt’s not legitimate, useful, or logical, though, to say, “Well, if you disagree with them, why don’t you banish them from your sight, cut off contact with them, drop them from your Christmas card list, and lead a crusade to have them run out of town on a rail?” That’s the sort of ideological all-or-nothing you’re-for-me-or-against-me you’re-with-the-angels-or-the-devils kind of thing that has gotten this country into a lot of the mess it’s currently in.<\/p>\n
That Obama seems to realize that makes him, to my mind, all the better of a candidate.<\/p>\n
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(shared by Doyce)<\/p>\n
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