{"id":12605,"date":"2008-03-12T15:34:33","date_gmt":"2008-03-12T22:34:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/03\/12\/the-torture-president.html"},"modified":"2008-03-12T15:34:33","modified_gmt":"2008-03-12T22:34:33","slug":"the_torture_president","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/03\/12\/the_torture_president.html","title":{"rendered":"The Torture President"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/news\/nationworld\/washingtondc\/la-na-torture12mar12,1,7672720.story\" target=\"_blank\">Great legacy to build, George<\/a>. Maybe it will take historians&#8217; attention off all your other gaffes.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>House Democrats failed Tuesday to override President Bush&#8217;s veto of a ban on waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques, and they castigated the administration for subjecting prisoners to torture in the fight against terrorism. [&#8230;] The vote to overturn the veto, which required a two-thirds majority, fell short, 225-188.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;] The Bush administration has opposed taking any interrogation options off the table, saying that to do so would rob U.S. investigators of important tools. In a statement after the vote, Press Secretary Dana Perino said, &#8220;The bill would have eliminated the legal alternative procedures in place in the CIA program to question the world&#8217;s most dangerous and violent terrorists.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Or anyone else they chose to use the &#8220;procedures&#8221; on.<\/p>\n<p>I say again &#8212; torture is ineffective 99% of the time, unless it is to provide an immediately verifiable piece of information, and it&#8217;s inappropriate 99.99% of the time. We shouldn&#8217;t be setting US policy &#8212; and trumpeting it to the world &#8212; based on &#8220;nuke in New York&#8221; sort of scenarios, otherwise we should let the police (or, honestly, anyone else)&nbsp;detain people at will and interrogate anyone with any technique they want.<\/p>\n<p>Disgusting.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Great legacy to build, George. Maybe it will take historians&#8217; attention off all your other gaffes. 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