{"id":12757,"date":"2008-10-03T20:18:25","date_gmt":"2008-10-04T03:18:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/10\/03\/dave-does-the-election-2.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:16:21","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:16:21","slug":"dave_does_the_election_2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/10\/03\/dave_does_the_election_2.html","title":{"rendered":"***Dave Does the Election"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"img-shadow-right\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Vote!\" height=\"144\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/voting-butterfly.jpg\" width=\"96\" \/> <\/div>\n<p>It&#8217;s the Friday night &#8220;this&#8217;ll be old news by the time you read it Monday, which is okay because I&#8217;ve already been accumulating some of these for the past three&nbsp;or four&nbsp;days&#8221; edition &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I suppose it makes sense to, per tradition,&nbsp;begin with Gov. <strong>Palin<\/strong>. Not much new to contribute as to how &#8220;well&#8221; she did in the debate last night &#8212; though some increasingly amusing commentary about her content free presentation (see <a title=\"Sarah Palin Debate Flow Chart\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/03\/sarah-palin-debate-flowch_n_131607.html\">flow chart<\/a>), especially if you were <a href=\"http:\/\/mleddy.blogspot.com\/2008\/10\/thursday-night-live.html\">watching the debate on C-SPAN <\/a>and could see what Palin was doing (studying furiously) while Biden was speaking.<\/p>\n<p>Despite <strike>flow chart<\/strike> note cards, fact-checking of Palin keeps digging up more problems. She was <a title=\"Palin Got Troop Levels In Iraq Wrong\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/03\/palin-got-troop-levels-in_n_131562.html\">wrong about troop levels<\/a>, for example, and <a title=\"Another Lie: Palin Falsely Claimed Biden Supported McCain's Iraq Policies Until This Campaign\" href=\"http:\/\/tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2008\/10\/another_palin_lie_debunked_bid.php\">wrong about Biden&#8217;s support<\/a>&nbsp;of McCain&#8217;s war policy until recently. Heck, it appears she was <a title=\"McCain Camp Admits Palin Got Homeowner Protections Position Wrong\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/03\/mccain-camp-admits-palin_n_131548.html\">wrong about McCain&#8217;s policy on bankruptcy court protections <\/a>for homeowners (at least that&#8217;s what the McCain camp says). It&#8217;s a toss-up whether she (or, rather, her script-writers) were either ignorant, or trying to really make a statement about health care programs, when her wrap-up Reagan quote turns out to be from a 1960s recording he made on behalf of the AMA &#8230; <a title=\"Raising the white flag of surrender to Medicare - Paul Krugman - Op-Ed Columnist - New York Times Blog\" href=\"http:\/\/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com\/2008\/10\/03\/raising-the-white-flag-of-surrender-to-medicare\/\">against Medicare<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, outside the debate, fact-checking continues to ring up problems, like her (false) claim that <a title=\"No, Sarah Palin Never Met With The British Ambassador\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/02\/no-sarah-palin-never-met_n_131374.html\">she met with the British Ambassador<\/a>. Funny thing for <a title=\"Palin says she represents 'Joe Six-pack' - Yahoo! News\" href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20081001\/ap_on_el_pr\/palin_joe_six_pack\">&#8220;Joe Six-pack&#8221;<\/a>&nbsp;to be lying about.<\/p>\n<p>Naturally, it&#8217;s okay for a liberal like myself to criticize Palin, since I&#8217;m speaking into the echo chamber. Woe betide any conservative commentators who aren&#8217;t enthusiastic Palin supporters &#8212; they <a title=\"Welcome to the dark side of your constituency, Kathleen\" href=\"http:\/\/www.decrepitoldfool.com\/index.php\/weblog\/kparkerlearns\/\">get the equivalent of a fatwa from the &#8220;base.&#8221;<\/a> Unlike other folk Palin knows who <a title=\"Fatwa For Flirting\" href=\"http:\/\/j-walkblog.com\/index.php?\/weblog\/posts\/fatwa_for_flirting\/\">get Muslim fatwas for hanging out with such a flirtaceous girl<\/a>. <a title=\"Palin\u2019s Unbiblical Candidacy\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/palin%E2%80%99s-unbiblical-candidacy\">No Christian fatwas<\/a>&nbsp;&#8212; yet &#8212; for her being so un-Biblical as to run for political office.<\/p>\n<p>Back home, Palin&#8217;s having problems, too. A lawsuit to get the official Troopergate investigation (as opposed to the hand-picked Palin-appointee-run investigation) declared illegal has failed, and the state attorney general may actually have to turn around and <a title=\"Raymond Leon Roker: Sarah Palin isn't Funny Anymore\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/raymond-leon-roker\/sarah-palin-isnt-funny-an_b_131514.html\">compel people to obey those bothersome subpoenas<\/a>. Including the &#8220;First Dude.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, she&#8217;s finally gotten a Fox-sponsored &#8220;do-over&#8221; on some of her more embarrassing Couric interview gaffes (like the whole <a title=\"There\u2019s, Of Course In The Great History Of America There Have Been Rulings ...\" href=\"http:\/\/obsidianwings.blogs.com\/obsidian_wings\/2008\/10\/theres-of-cours.html\">Supreme Court decisions? What Supreme Court decisions? <\/a>embarrassment. In the retake,&nbsp;<a title=\"She Read the Cliffsnotes?\" href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/%7Er\/Talking-Points-Memo\/%7E3\/lNp7Jut0Aa0\/221816.php\">Palin recites a brilliantly memorized answer<\/a>&nbsp;&#8212; clearly she was well-briefed in case it came up during the debate. She also reveals that (I am not making this up) the reason she couldn&#8217;t name McCain reforms, or newspapers she reads, or SCOTUS decisions was that (I really am not making this up) she was <em>annoyed <\/em>(really) at being asked such questions. (You betcha!)<\/p>\n<p>The only thing I will say in Palin&#8217;s defense is that while, yes, she utters that horrific mispronunciation of <em>nuclear<\/em>, &#8220;nucular,&#8221; no less a clever guy (and former nuclear sub engineer!) as Jimmy Carter had the same problem. So for that, even if it makes my teeth grind, she gets a pass.<\/p>\n<p>Less passable is her <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/raymond-leon-roker\/sarah-palin-isnt-funny-an_b_131514.html\">populist appeal to mediocrity in the &#8220;base&#8221;<\/a>&nbsp;&#8212; though, interestingly, some have suggested that Palin herself can be used as a &#8220;<a title=\"Adele Stan: The Palin Chronicles: Wedge-Setting 101\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/adele-stan\/the-palin-chronicles-wedg_b_131362.html\">wedge issue<\/a>&#8221; between the traditional conservatives (the Georgetown cocktail set that McCain despises so openly) and the social conservatives. It&#8217;s certainly an amusing idea.<\/p>\n<p>But not as amusing as <a title=\"I Can Fly This Plane Just Fine, Darn It!\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/rj-eskow\/i-can-fly-this-plane-just_b_131726.html\">this<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile &#8230; oh, yeah, there&#8217;s someone else on that ticket. Hmmm. Not much talk about Sen.&nbsp;<strong>McCain <\/strong>the past few days during all the Palin focus. The biggest news is that he&#8217;s pulling his campaign (as in &#8220;conceding&#8221;) <a title=\"Increasingly erratic McCain campaign suspending its operation in Michigan\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/%7Er\/Americablog\/%7E3\/409508951\/increasingly-erratic-mccain-campaign.html\">pulling his campaign from (as in &#8220;conceding&#8221;) Michigan<\/a>. That he did so before the VP debate indicates they&nbsp;<a title=\"The Tell?\" href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/%7Er\/Talking-Points-Memo\/%7E3\/bUuUipec0g0\/221524.php\">didn&#8217;t think Palin&#8217;s performance would change anything<\/a> &#8212; which may be <a title=\"Out of the Loop?\" href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/%7Er\/Talking-Points-Memo\/%7E3\/vgGYrMQnKpc\/221780.php\">why she didn&#8217;t know about it until today<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, Palin was also out of the loop &#8212; as in, &#8220;agreeing with something that Obama said but that McCain criticized&#8221; &#8212; on&nbsp;<a title=\"I Wanna Remember to Remember to Forget You Forgot Me\" href=\"http:\/\/obsidianwings.blogs.com\/obsidian_wings\/2008\/09\/i-wanna-remembe.html\">interventionism in Pakistan<\/a>. Though, of course, McCain used to say the same thing, before he didn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>A few other smatterings of McCain criticism out there, including a rather damning condemnation of his&nbsp;<a title=\"Kim Mance: McCain Emphasizes Concern for Veterans...So Just What Has He Done About Walter Reed?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/kim-mance\/mccain-emphasizes-concern_b_129785.html\">widely-touted support for veterans<\/a>, as well as an observation that Candidate and Senator McCain is willing to vote for an earmark-laden bill that he&#8217;s promised President&nbsp;McCain would veto &#8212; which is perhaps why, after voting&nbsp;for it,&nbsp;<a title=\"After Voting For Earmark-Laden Bailout Bill, McCain Seems To Call For Bush  To Veto It\" href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/10\/02\/mccain-veto-bailout\/\">he spoke out against it<\/a>. Oh, and he<\/p>\n<p>Which may be why his support among his &#8220;natural demographic&#8221; &#8212; seniors &#8212; is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pamshouseblend.com\/showDiary.do?diaryId=7329\">waning<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>About Sen. <strong>Obama <\/strong>&#8230; well not much, except for the shocking news that <a title=\"Obama Makes Keith Olbermann's Worst Person List\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/09\/29\/obama-makes-keith-olberma_n_130445.html\">he made Keith Olbermann&#8217;s &#8220;Worst Person&#8221; List<\/a>&nbsp;&#8212; and I&#8217;m sure even Margie would agree on that.<\/p>\n<p>I won&#8217;t talk much about Sen. <strong>Biden<\/strong>, except that everything I would write about Biden and Obama&#8217;s views on gay rights and marriage (as described by Biden last night at the debate) was already&nbsp;<a title=\"Biden, Obama, and the gay marriage thing\" href=\"http:\/\/www.doycetesterman.com\/archives\/2008\/10\/biden-obama-and-the-gay-marria.html\">written by Doyce first<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In more general election news, we have (i.e., I don&#8217;t want to come up with a paragraph to explain each one):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a title=\"The Great Schlep\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/%7Er\/boingboing\/iBag\/%7E3\/407480634\/the-great-schlep.html\">The Great Schlep<\/a>&nbsp;&#8211; getting older Jews in Florida to vote for Obama like their kids are (humorous, NSFW).<\/li>\n<li> <a title=\"Dead Candidate Options\" href=\"http:\/\/j-walkblog.com\/index.php?\/weblog\/posts\/dead_candidate_options\/\">Dead Candidate Options<\/a>&nbsp;&#8211; what happens if (God forbid) a presidential candidate dies before the election &#8230; or after it.<\/li>\n<li> <a title=\"Truth or Consequences\" href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/%7Er\/Talking-Points-Memo\/%7E3\/RAJxyFJRx44\/221746.php\">Truth or Consequences<\/a>&nbsp;&#8211; the plot thickens in the GOP &#8220;dirty tricks&#8221; scandal over using foreclosure rolls to challenge voters at the polls, as the official accused of saying that was the plan is suing for libel.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And so it goes.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s the Friday night &#8220;this&#8217;ll be old news by the time you read it Monday, which is okay because I&#8217;ve already been accumulating some of these for the past&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[54,718],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12757","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elections-2008","category-marriage-equality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":12744,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/10\/06\/dave_does_the_election_mo.html","url_meta":{"origin":12757,"position":0},"title":"***Dave Does the Election &#8211; 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