{"id":12770,"date":"2008-10-01T20:09:02","date_gmt":"2008-10-02T03:09:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/10\/01\/dave-does-the-election-multi-day-edition.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:16:28","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:16:28","slug":"dave_does_the_election_mu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/10\/01\/dave_does_the_election_mu.html","title":{"rendered":"***Dave Does the Election &#8211; Multi-Day Edition"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"img-shadow-right\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Vote!\" height=\"144\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/voting-butterfly.jpg\" width=\"96\" \/> <\/div>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been tied up in meetings this week, and so haven&#8217;t gotten one of these out for a few. Where to start, where to start &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Well, heck, why not with VP-debate-bait, Gov. <strong>Palin<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>The gaffes just keep on coming from the Defined Mrs. Sarah. Key are the Couric interviews, which has turned into a sore that never heals for the GOP. Whether it&#8217;s Palin suggesting that whether global warming is human-created &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/10\/01\/palin-global-warming\/\">kinda doesn\u2019t matter<\/a>,&#8221; or her apparent inability <a href=\"http:\/\/tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2008\/10\/yet_another_gruesome_palin_int.php\">to remember any Supreme Court decision besides <em>Roe v. Wade<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;(and <a title=\"Tanene Allison: Why What Palin Doesn't Know About the Supreme Court Matters\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/tanene-allison\/why-what-palin-doesnt-kno_b_130696.html\">why that ignorance is significant<\/a>), or her similar inability to actually <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/09\/30\/palins-news\/\">name any magazines or newspapers she reads<\/a>&nbsp;(&#8220;all of them!&#8221;), or her suggestion (with no irony) that <a title=\"Couric Interview: Palin Repeats Age Swipe At Biden (VIDEO)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/09\/30\/couric-asks-palin-how-she_n_130642.html\">Joe Biden is old<\/a>,&nbsp;the hits just keep coming. As do attempts to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2201158?nav=wp\">parse what the heck she&#8217;s actually saying<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, follow-ups from earlier Palinisms and similar shenanigans show that <a title='\"Before Troopergate, Palin Said Tough Investigations &quot;Healthy For Democracy&quot;\"' href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/01\/before-troopergate-palin_n_130876.html\">she used to be for tough, independent investigations<\/a>&nbsp;before she was against them, she <a title=\"CNN: Sarah Palin Has Never Seen Russia From Alaska\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/01\/cnn-sarah-palin-has-never_n_130752.html\">never actually has seen Russia from Alaska<\/a>, her beloved <a title=\"Anti-Palin 'Wolf' Ad Expands Into Battlegrounds\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/01\/anti-palin-wolf-ad-campai_n_130744.html\">aerial hunting of wolves<\/a>&nbsp;isn&#8217;t scoring her many points with the public, she <a title=\"Palin On Rape Kit Accusations: \u2018The Entire Notion Of Making A Victim Of A &#10;Crime Pay For Anything Is Crazy\u2019\" href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/09\/30\/palin-rape\/\">explicitly denies that she had her city and police chief charge vicims for rape kits<\/a>&nbsp;(without explaining the evidence to the contrary), and, oh yeah, she actually had (or has)&nbsp;yet another <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/01\/palin-used-private-email_n_130837.html\">private email account for conducting government business with close aides<\/a>&nbsp;in an attempt to avoid any sort of oversight or public records regulations.<\/p>\n<p>Through it all, we&#8217;re heartened to learn that <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/10\/01\/mccain-palin-advice\/\">McCain is routinely turning <em>to <\/em>her for foreign policy advice<\/a>, and that conservatives <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2008\/09\/30\/AR2008093002315.html\">turn <em>on <\/em>her at their own peril<\/a>. I guess it&#8217;s just as well that&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/obsidianwings.blogs.com\/obsidian_wings\/2008\/09\/21-years-in-cap.html\">people have been focusing so much on her<\/a>&nbsp;since she hit the scene.<\/p>\n<p>And, of course on her running mate, Sen. <strong>McCain<\/strong>,&nbsp;and his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/jesse-lee\/35-days-out-epic-flail-wh_b_130574.html\">erratic campaign<\/a>. Whether it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/blogs\/bensmith\/0908\/Hugo_of_Arabia.html\">suggesting that Venezuela&#8217;s Hugo Chavez is an Arab<\/a>, making casual comments about Pakistan that <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/09\/30\/former-ambassador-to-pakistan-responds-to-mccain-pakistan-was-not-a-failed-state-in-1999\/\">don&#8217;t bear scrutiny<\/a>, urging his fellow congresscritters to <a href=\"http:\/\/j-walkblog.com\/index.php?\/weblog\/posts\/change_the_name\/\">use the term &#8220;rescue&#8221; rather than &#8220;bailout,&#8221;<\/a>&nbsp;promising to veto earmarks while <a title=\"McCain: I'll Veto Earmarks, But I Won't Vote Against Them\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/09\/30\/mccain-ill-veto-earmarks_n_130456.html\">declining to vote against them,<\/a> promising &#8220;transparency&#8221; and &#8220;accountability&#8221; while while <a title='\"Jesse Lee: 34 Days Out: &quot;A New Standard for Transparency and Accountability&quot;?\"' href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/jesse-lee\/34-days-out-a-new-standar_b_130900.html\">making up attacks against Obama<\/a>, or&nbsp;giving an interview to a gay newspaper where he sees no contradiction between having and admiring numerous gay friends and colleagues yet <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pamshouseblend.com\/showDiary.do?diaryId=7322\">being against anything governental or legal that protects or supports gay rights<\/a>, it becomes understandable that the GOP wants McCain to stop trying to use facts and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/01\/nervous-gop-urges-mccain_n_130811.html\">just attack Obama<\/a>.<a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/09\/30\/former-ambassador-to-pakistan-responds-to-mccain-pakistan-was-not-a-failed-state-in-1999\/\"><\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>And, by the way, as I&#8217;ve said before, McCain should <a title=\"New Urgency Over McCain Medical Questions As Election Nears\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/09\/30\/new-urgency-over-mccain-m_n_130298.html\">fully open up his medical records<\/a>. As should, I note, Obama (though I am much less concerned about him).<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile in the <strong>Obama <\/strong>camp, though the polls have been steadily going in his favor, such that his campaign is actually <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/paul-jenkins\/obama-and-democrats-fight_b_130755.html\">hitting hard in states thought to be solidly GOP<\/a>,&nbsp;they don&#8217;t seem to be getting complacent, concerned about it still being a month out and the electorate <a title='\"Top Obama Labor Supporter Warns: Battleground States &quot;Extremely Volatile&quot;\"' href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/10\/01\/top-obama-labor-supporter_n_130886.html\">still being volatile<\/a>, and Obama supporters continue to suggest that now&#8217;s the time to set aside divisions within the party and do whatever&#8217;s necessary to <a title=\"Peter Clothier: Propelling Obama Into Office\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/peter-clothier\/propelling-obama-into-off_b_130601.html\">get him into office<\/a>, if only to demonstrate that &#8220;elite&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/ben-zalkind\/the-mediocritization-of-a_b_130932.html\">isn&#8217;t as bad a word as &#8220;mediocre.&#8221;<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, looking at the polls, the question of <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/09\/29\/dow-drop-2008-v-2001\/\">whether people think they are better off today than they were eight years ago<\/a>&nbsp;seems to be having an effect.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As for <strong>Biden <\/strong>&#8230; well, most of the press seems to be as to whether he&#8217;ll unleash one of his <a href=\"http:\/\/features.csmonitor.com\/politics\/2008\/10\/01\/couric-strikes-again-asks-palin-impossible-question\/\">infamous gaffes<\/a>&nbsp;at the debate tomorrow night. While nobody expects him to lose the debate on points, there is concern that Palin might find effective ways to make it look like he&#8217;s ganging up on her, reengaging some of the sympathy and support she&#8217;s squandered since the RNC. In some ways, his ability to avoid falling into that obvious trap will be a significant test for his ability to lead effectively.<\/p>\n<hr width=\"75%\" \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There is, of course, more going on in politics than the election. We have &#8220;pro-family&#8221; groups seriously arguing that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/doing-away-vawa\">we need to get rid of the Violence Against Women Act,<\/a>&nbsp;since all it does is let women <em>not <\/em>be subservient to their therefore righteously violent husbands (whom they should not be able to get a divorce from, by the bye). We have folks opposed to gays in the military <a title=\"Busted - Elaine Donnelly's secret, desperate meeting to preserve DADT\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/%7Er\/PamsHouseBlend\/%7E3\/408135059\/showDiary.do\">desperately trying to get their calls returned<\/a>, and folks opposed to gay marriage in California <a title=\"ProtectMarriage.com Trapped in the Closet\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/protectmarriagecom-trapped-closet\">desperately trying to avoid people knowing who they are<\/a>. And, of course, we have moribund conservative organizations suddenly reviving with mysteriously deep pockets and <a title=\"The JCN\u2019s Million Dollar Mystery\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/jcn%E2%80%99s-million-dollar-mystery\">veiled attacks against Obama<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Then there&#8217;s all the brouhaha over the bail-out, which is <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/09\/30\/beck-goldberg-violence\/\">bringing out the best in conservative commentators<\/a>. The GOP can&#8217;t get their story straight as to whether they tanked the bill <a title=\"Bachmann Claims Pelosi\u2019s \u2018Bitter\u2019 Speech Was \u2018Attacking The Bailout\u2019\" href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/2008\/10\/01\/bachmann-bailout-pelosi\/\">because of Pelosi&#8217;s speech<\/a>&nbsp;or because of <a title='\"&quot;&quot;GOP Rep: Republicans Complaining About Pelosi Are &quot;Babies Sucking Their Thumbs&quot;&quot;&quot;\"' href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/09\/29\/gop-rep-republicans-compl_n_130446.html\">anything but Pelosi&#8217;s speech<\/a>. What&#8217;s interesting about the debate is the prospect that this may signal a sea change in public opinion about <a title=\"The Progressive Moment\" href=\"http:\/\/obsidianwings.blogs.com\/obsidian_wings\/2008\/09\/the-progressive.html\">Twhere government intervention and control in the markets&nbsp;is necessary and desirable<\/a>.<a title='\"&quot;&quot;GOP Rep: Republicans Complaining About Pelosi Are &quot;Babies Sucking Their Thumbs&quot;&quot;&quot;\"' href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/09\/29\/gop-rep-republicans-compl_n_130446.html\"><\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>And between the election and the bail-out, nobody&#8217;s noticing that Congress has named a Special Prosecutor to <a title=\"Special Prosecutor Named To Investigate Firings Of US Attorneys\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2008\/09\/29\/special-prosecutor-named_n_130436.html\">investigate the firings of federal prosecutors for political reasons<\/a>. Well done.<\/p>\n<p>And so it goes.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/ben-zalkind\/the-mediocritization-of-a_b_130932.html\"> <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been tied up in meetings this week, and so haven&#8217;t gotten one of these out for a few. 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