{"id":128044,"date":"2015-09-17T22:01:04","date_gmt":"2015-09-18T04:01:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/09\/17\/whats-good-for-the-nsa-is-good-for-the-chinese.html"},"modified":"2015-09-18T10:31:59","modified_gmt":"2015-09-18T16:31:59","slug":"whats-good-for-the-nsa-is-good-for-the-chinese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/09\/17\/whats-good-for-the-nsa-is-good-for-the-chinese.html","title":{"rendered":"What&#039;s good for the NSA is good for the Chinese"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Is anyone surprised that the Chinese want as much back-door access to systems and data and cryptographic systems as, say, the NSA and US intelligence agencies do?<\/p>\n<p>And aside from &quot;Well, we&#39;re the good guys and they&#39;re the bad guys,&quot; how can you argue with that? Especially given the size of China&#39;s economy for those Internet businesses?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2015\/09\/china-tells-us-tech-companies-to-sign-prism-like-cyber-loyalty-pact'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/oteFfT9vu6qmPYJBOrm4E9D6geIIrEPSPOZfTJEtDBV-pZhZIzsednDipsP5bddPwen0aSLTEAuYNIZc4yPkXBkbKCvo7ZFjO7wmAQ=w506-h303-p' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2015\/09\/china-tells-us-tech-companies-to-sign-prism-like-cyber-loyalty-pact'>China tells US tech companies to sign PRISM-like cyber-loyalty pact | Ars Technica<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n&ldquo;Pledge of compliance&rdquo; may require companies to turn over data, install backdoors.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/RPXzNCbTdTJ'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is anyone surprised that the Chinese want as much back-door access to systems and data and cryptographic systems as, say, the NSA and US intelligence agencies do? And aside from &quot;Well, we&#39;re the good guys and they&#39;re the bad guys,&quot; how can you argue with that? Especially given the size of China&#39;s economy for those &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/09\/17\/whats-good-for-the-nsa-is-good-for-the-chinese.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;What&#039;s good for the NSA is good for the Chinese&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,10,132],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-128044","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-geopolitical-brouhaha","category-privacy"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":40480,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/01\/07\/how-the-national-security-agency-makes-us-more-insecure.html","url_meta":{"origin":128044,"position":0},"title":"How the National Security Agency makes us more insecure","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 7-Jan-14 10:32pm","format":false,"excerpt":"First, because it's inherently unsafe:'It's not just domestic abuse we have to worry about; it's the rest of the world, too. 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