{"id":128207,"date":"2015-10-02T10:34:14","date_gmt":"2015-10-02T16:34:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/10\/02\/if-we-dont-study-it-we-can-just-pontificate-on-it.html"},"modified":"2015-11-16T09:37:45","modified_gmt":"2015-11-16T16:37:45","slug":"if-we-dont-study-it-we-can-just-pontificate-on-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/10\/02\/if-we-dont-study-it-we-can-just-pontificate-on-it.html","title":{"rendered":"If we don't study it, we can just pontificate on it"},"content":{"rendered":"

Pontificate in sorrow, or in resolute love of freedom, or in angry tones about how "this isn't the time" (which time becomes much more difficult to pin down since the intervals between mass shootings keep growing ever shorter).<\/p>\n

This is from back in July — right after another mass shooting that made lots of headlines — but it illustrates the real<\/i> gun violence problem the US faces.<\/p>\n

Which is, not only are our elected representatives (especially, but not solely, on the GOP side of the aisle) not willing to discuss gun violence in the US, they really don't want anyone else discussing it, either, and certainly not researching<\/i> it in a way that would let us actually have sensible, fact-based discussions about its scope and possible solutions, because the conclusions of what could be done about it (nothing, because NRA) have already been drawn, and further discussions will only rile up valuable contributors and the rabble-rousers they pay for (see also: NRA).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\nQuietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violence<\/a><\/span>
\nNot long after the shooting in Charleston, a US House of Representatives committee rejected a measure that would have allowed the CDC to conduct research into gun violence, leaving intact a ban pushed by the NRA back in the 1990s.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Pontificate in sorrow, or in resolute love of freedom, or in angry tones about how "this isn't the time" (which time becomes much more difficult to pin down since the intervals between mass shootings keep growing ever shorter). This is from back in July — right after another mass shooting that made lots of headlines … Continue reading “If we don't study it, we can just pontificate on it”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,298],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-128207","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-guns"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":127817,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/08\/26\/its-never-the-right-time-to-discuss-gun-violence-it-seems.html","url_meta":{"origin":128207,"position":0},"title":"It's never the right time to discuss gun violence, it seems","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 26-Aug-15 11:02pm","format":false,"excerpt":"If you can't discuss it after mass shootings because it's \"too soon\" ... then it's difficult to find a time to discuss it, given the frequency of mass shootings. 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