{"id":128492,"date":"2015-11-03T16:25:51","date_gmt":"2015-11-03T23:25:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/11\/03\/when-open-carry-makes-people-less-safe.html"},"modified":"2015-11-04T23:05:00","modified_gmt":"2015-11-05T06:05:00","slug":"when-open-carry-makes-people-less-safe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/11\/03\/when-open-carry-makes-people-less-safe.html","title":{"rendered":"When &quot;open carry&quot; makes people less safe"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The idea behind &quot;open carry&quot; (at least the publicly legitimizing idea) is that an armed society is a polite (and thus safe) society, and if people are carrying firearms openly, the Bad Guys won&#39;t start any trouble.<\/p>\n<p>Which sounds good, until you end up with a case where an openly carrying person <i>was<\/i> the Bad Guy, the open carry was a sign the guy was an impending thread, and 911 declined to do anything about it because it was legal.<\/p>\n<p>Is that enough to change the policy? Maybe not. But it&#39;s worth some consideration.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/post-nation\/wp\/2015\/11\/03\/in-colorado-springs-dispatcher-brushed-off-reports-of-a-man-with-a-gun'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/ySm5OW4jk5pP7G9CtlLpxgOCQvF-FYD19FHCXgbXtzCByz-yyEICvsGkNxOKao10h4bmuN-YHpXZiZeWURO3D2VFxAusVN-l1tlGagWi3vAJzD9xfPVBQC9S7XtqwTjmHHW94NAAAeuRFiEwq_jN62JmYQ=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/post-nation\/wp\/2015\/11\/03\/in-colorado-springs-dispatcher-brushed-off-reports-of-a-man-with-a-gun'>In Colorado Springs, dispatcher brushed off reports of a man with a gun, witness says<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n&#8220;She said, you know, we have that law here.&#8221; Open carry is legal. &#8220;And it just kind of blew me away.&#8221;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/CjNvQGY7WUx'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The idea behind &quot;open carry&quot; (at least the publicly legitimizing idea) is that an armed society is a polite (and thus safe) society, and if people are carrying firearms openly, the Bad Guys won&#39;t start any trouble. Which sounds good, until you end up with a case where an openly carrying person was the Bad &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/11\/03\/when-open-carry-makes-people-less-safe.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;When &quot;open carry&quot; makes people less safe&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,298],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-128492","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-guns"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":45698,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/10\/08\/an-armed-society-is-a-politely-disarmed-society.html","url_meta":{"origin":128492,"position":0},"title":"An armed society is a politely disarmed society","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 8-Oct-14 6:36am","format":false,"excerpt":"Because carrying around a gun openly doesn't do anything but make you a target for folk who (a) want to commit mayhem, and therefore will shoot you first, or (b) really like that gun you're carrying, pull out theirs first, then ask you politely for yours. 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