{"id":12854,"date":"2008-09-17T09:53:25","date_gmt":"2008-09-17T16:53:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/09\/17\/lets-talk-about-the-election-for-a-change.html"},"modified":"2008-09-17T09:53:25","modified_gmt":"2008-09-17T16:53:25","slug":"lets_talk_about_the_elect","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/09\/17\/lets_talk_about_the_elect.html","title":{"rendered":"Let&#8217;s talk about the election for a change &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"img-shadow-right\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Vote!\" height=\"144\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/voting-butterfly.jpg\" width=\"96\" \/> <\/div>\n<p>&#8230; well, not really a change, I guess.<\/p>\n<p>Is the Sarah Palin story fading a bit? Is the media getting tired of following up on reports about her <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/news\/feature\/2008\/09\/15\/bess\/index.html\">feud with a liberal preacher<\/a>, her <a title=\"One Thing You Didn't Know About Sarah Palin [Witchhunt]\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.gawker.com\/%7Er\/gawker\/full\/%7E3\/394619748\/one-thing-you-didnt-know-about-sarah-palin\">ties to a Kenyan witch-hunter<\/a>,&nbsp;or her <a href=\"http:\/\/dneiwert.blogspot.com\/2008\/09\/sarah-palin-and-westbrook-pegler.html#\">very odd choice of people (Westbrook Pegler) to quote<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>On the last note, being a guy who <a href=\"http:\/\/wist.info\" target=\"_blank\">collects quotations<\/a>, sometimes it&#8217;s very easy to find something you like without knowing much about who said it. Or, even if you do, realizing that the quotation itself fits just what you want to say, even if the person is not someone you agree with on other items. And, of course, chances are that it was a speech writer, not Palin herself, who chose the words.<\/p>\n<p>That said &#8212; everything a candidate does and says is under intense scrutiny &#8212; and will be when they are running the country and conducting international affairs, too. And, beyond that,&nbsp;it&#8217;s one thing for a candidate to quote from Teddy Roosevelt (who, aside from his greatness as a president, had a decidedly mixed record, from the modern perspective, on race relations), and quite another to quote from someone who wished that FDR had been assassinated and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogula-rasa.com\/2008\/09\/16\/robert-f-kennedy-jr-governor-palins-reading-list\/\" target=\"_blank\">hoped that RFK would be<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>No, Palin&#8217;s gaffes seem to be fading into the background &#8212; as another woman&#8217;s gaffes pop up this news cycle. Carly Fiorina, former HP-Compaq exec (before she was booted), has been one of McCain&#8217;s top economic advisor and an A-List media contact. But after she noted that Palin wasn&#8217;t qualified to run a big corporation, then added, in her defense, that <a href=\"http:\/\/commentsfromleftfield.com\/2008\/09\/lack-of-faith\" target=\"_blank\">McCain wasn&#8217;t either<\/a>, nor were Obama and Biden, the campaign is reputed to be <a title=\"Fiorina's comment called 'Biden-like' - CNN Political Ticker\" href=\"http:\/\/politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com\/2008\/09\/16\/fiorinas-comment-called-biden-like\/#\">banishing her to Coventry<\/a>&nbsp;&#8212; though she&#8217;ll still be active behind the scenes. Perhaps with her media calendar cleared up, she can commiserate with&nbsp;<a href=\"A fool and his $30,000 watch are soon parted.\" target=\"_blank\">another McCain supporter who ran into some self-inflicted trouble<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, on the main stage, I&#8217;m seeing more folks turning from reacting to what&#8217;s going on with McCain and his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/%E2%80%9Cpompous-self-serving-son-bitch%E2%80%9D-endorses-mccain\">strange bed-fellows<\/a>, and instead starting to talk positively about what Obama has to offer:&nbsp;<a title=\"The Economy: Obama Leads While McCain Favors Turning Over the Presidency to  a Commission\" href=\"http:\/\/commentsfromleftfield.com\/2008\/09\/the-economy-obama-leads-while-mccain-favors-turning-over-presidency-to-a-commission\">more leadership on the economy<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/oneutah.org\/2008\/09\/16\/bob-problem-solved\/\" target=\"_blank\">support from economists<\/a>,&nbsp;a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/opinions\/2008\/09\/10\/obama-mccain-taxes-oped-cx_dg_0910gerstein.html#\" target=\"_blank\">better tax strategy<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wsj.com\/article\/SB122100226859616967.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today#\" target=\"_blank\">more support for small farmers<\/a>, <a title=\"Why Obama's Health Plan Is Better - WSJ.com\" href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB122152292213639569.html#\">a better plan for health care<\/a> &#8212; a whole <a title=\"An Itemized Case For Barack Obama\" href=\"http:\/\/commentsfromleftfield.com\/2008\/09\/an-itemized-case-for-barack-obama\">laundry list<\/a> of reasons to vote for him (though these comparative <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencedebate2008.com\/www\/index.php?id=42\" target=\"_blank\">talking points on science<\/a> from both campaigns seem longer on rhetoric than substance). He&#8217;s doing some <a href=\"http:\/\/www.swamppolitics.com\/news\/politics\/blog\/2008\/09\/barack_obamas_night_with_holly.html#\" target=\"_blank\">serious talking, even in glittering fund-raising venues<\/a>. Joe Biden is beginning to get <a href=\"http:\/\/obsidianwings.blogs.com\/obsidian_wings\/2008\/09\/biden-his-time.html\" target=\"_blank\">more<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2008\/9\/15\/15035\/1537\" target=\"_blank\">coverage<\/a>, too, which is good.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>And after the frantic worries of defeat post-RNC polling bump, people are beginning to let the Obama campaign run itself rather than <a href=\"http:\/\/commentsfromleftfield.com\/2008\/09\/on-armchair-strategery\" target=\"_blank\">second-guess its strategy<\/a>, even as it starts fighting back proactively against <a href=\"http:\/\/commentsfromleftfield.com\/2008\/09\/obama-campaign-takes-legal-action-against-voter-suppression-tactics-in-michigan\" target=\"_blank\">potential election day dirty tricks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr width=\"75%\" \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been doing a bit more work on these election posts, trying to actually weave a narrative rather than just posting a bunch of annotated links like my regular &#8220;potpourri&#8221; posts. Any feedback is appreciated.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230; well, not really a change, I guess. Is the Sarah Palin story fading a bit? Is the media getting tired of following up on reports about her feud&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[54],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12854","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elections-2008"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":39879,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/12\/04\/december-time-for-the-war-on-christmas.html","url_meta":{"origin":12854,"position":0},"title":"December?\u00a0Time for\u00a0the War on Christmas!","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 4-Dec-13 7:31am","format":false,"excerpt":"Jon Stewart reports that the War on Christmas has a huge, new, sinister spokesperson! And only Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin can protect us from him!\ufeff World War C - Happy Holidays Sarah Palin and Bill O'Reilly rush to Christmas's defense, despite its not being in any way threatened. View\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":12790,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/09\/26\/dave_does_the_election_no.html","url_meta":{"origin":12854,"position":1},"title":"***Dave Does the Election (now with Financial Implosion Goodness)","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 26-Sep-08 2:45pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm actually feeling pretty tired this afternoon, so I'm not going to go on at much length. As usual, we start with Gov. Palin -- though I must confess that,...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Elections 2008&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Elections 2008","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law\/elections-2008"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":41846,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/04\/29\/why-does-sarah-palin-hate-christianity.html","url_meta":{"origin":12854,"position":2},"title":"Why does Sarah Palin hate Christianity?","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 29-Apr-14 6:50am","format":false,"excerpt":"Well, she putatively doesn't. She would say, in fact, that she loves it. 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Includes these top hits: Palin visited troops in Iraq. McCain-Palin appearance drew a crowd of 23,000....","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Elections 2008&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Elections 2008","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law\/elections-2008"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12854","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12854"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12854\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12854"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12854"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12854"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}