{"id":1291,"date":"2002-01-31T07:35:43","date_gmt":"2002-01-31T12:35:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/?p=1291"},"modified":"2002-01-31T07:35:43","modified_gmt":"2002-01-31T12:35:43","slug":"when_is_an_id_n","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2002\/01\/31\/when_is_an_id_n.html","title":{"rendered":"When is an ID not an ID?"},"content":{"rendered":"

The state of Florida is being sued by a Muslim woman, after the state suspended her Drivers License because she declined to take off her veil<\/a> (which reveals only her eyes) for the picture.<\/p>\n

I certainly respect Sultaana Freeman’s beliefs. If she feels it is improper or undignified to appear unveiled to “strangers or unrelated males,” that is certainly her prerogative.<\/p>\n

But Florida law states, both clearly and properly, that a drivers license must have “a color photographic or digital imaged driver’s license bearing a full-face photograph.” The implications for being able to identify the holder are clear — that’s the purpose of the picture in the first place. <\/p>\n

If Freeman declines to be so photographed (and, presumably, to unveil for a policeman), she cannot be given an drivers license (which is, of course, a privilege, a “license,” not a right). That’s not religious prejudice, that’s just common sense.<\/p>\n

The only weakness in the state’s case is that, apparently, Freeman was able to obtain an Illinois DL while veiled, and on a February 2001 license issued by Florida. The Florida error was discovered during a review of DL records in November, post-9-11.<\/p>\n

(Via OpinionJournal<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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