{"id":12919,"date":"2008-09-07T13:27:05","date_gmt":"2008-09-07T20:27:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/09\/07\/i-speak-for-the-trees.html"},"modified":"2008-09-07T13:27:05","modified_gmt":"2008-09-07T20:27:05","slug":"i_speak_for_the_trees","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/09\/07\/i_speak_for_the_trees.html","title":{"rendered":"I speak for the trees!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So one of our Decision Points for the front yard re-landscape is trees. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/08\/12\/between_our_ideas_and_you.html\" target=\"_blank\">plan<\/a>&nbsp;has a large tree up top on the right corner of the patio, and two smaller trees, one in the middle off the sidewalk, the other in the upper left-hand corner by the driveway. Those are 20-30&#8242; and 10-15&#8242; range trees, respectively. Presumably the two smaller ones would be of the same species.<\/p>\n<p>We got one suggestion from the landscapers, and have done some further research on our own. The Internet is both wonderful for this and a huge problem, as it can easily lead to option paralysis (plus trees height can vary in estimate tremendously, as you&#8217;ll see, sometimes based, I think, on region, other times on species (mis)identification.<\/p>\n<p>So here&#8217;s what we have so far for options (we are, for reference, in <a href=\"http:\/\/mgonline.com\/zm_co.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">USDA hardiness zone 5b<\/a>, Sunset Zone 2). We consider recommendations from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ext.colostate.edu\/menu_garden.html\" target=\"_blank\">CSU Extension<\/a>&nbsp;and <a href=\"http:\/\/plantselect.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Plant Select<\/a> to be particularly noteworthy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Big Tree<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>WASATCH (BIGTOOTH, ROCKY MOUNTAIN SUGAR, WESTERN SUGAR, CANYON) MAPLE<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <em>Acer grandidentatum, Acer saccharum grandidentatum, A. g. Nutt.<\/em><\/li>\n<li> 20-30 ft (also given as 10-15 ft; 30-40 ft; 40-50 ft, 30 ft wide; &#8220;matures at 10-15 ft but is sometimes taller,&#8221; 36-72 ft, &#8220;rarely exceeds 25 ft,&#8221; 25 ft)<\/li>\n<li> USDA zones 3-7 (5a-8a?) (native Colorado 7000-8000 ft; grows from 4500)<\/li>\n<li> <u>References<\/u>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coopext.colostate.edu\/4dmg\/Trees\/wasatch.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.coopext.colostate.edu\/4dmg\/Trees\/wasatch.htm<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/hort.ufl.edu\/trees\/ACEGRAA.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/hort.ufl.edu\/trees\/ACEGRAA.pdf<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/plants.usda.gov\/java\/profile?symbol=ACGR3\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/plants.usda.gov\/java\/profile?symbol=ACGR3<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.maple-trees.com\/pages\/canyon-maple.php\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.maple-trees.com\/pages\/canyon-maple.php<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fs.fed.us\/database\/feis\/plants\/tree\/acegra\/all.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.fs.fed.us\/database\/feis\/plants\/tree\/acegra\/all.html<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wildflower.org\/plants\/result.php?id_plant=ACGR3\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.wildflower.org\/plants\/result.php?id_plant=ACGR3<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.coloradotrees.org\/treeomonth\/2000\/jun_00.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.coloradotrees.org\/treeomonth\/2000\/jun_00.htm<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/selectree.calpoly.edu\/treedetail_all.lasso?rid=53&amp;-session=selectree:4C782D48162540FD2BUqw1A51B77\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/selectree.calpoly.edu\/treedetail_all.lasso?rid=53&amp;-session=selectree:4C782D48162540FD2BUqw1A51B77<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/planetcrimson.net\/index.php?topic=1726.0\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/planetcrimson.net\/index.php?topic=1726.0<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Acer_grandidentatum\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Acer_grandidentatum<\/a> <\/li>\n<li> <u>Pros<\/u>: Fall color, reasonably drought-tolerant (&#8220;survives in dry sites once established&#8221;); mdm growth rate; full sun; no litter problem; no surface roots problem; &#8220;outstanding ornamental,&#8221; no pests; not invasive; cold- and heat-hardy; holds up to storms; CSU Extension recommended<\/li>\n<li> <u>Cons<\/u>: Needs to be trained not to be a shrub; native moist, well-drained soil; size?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8216;FRONTIER&#8217; HYBRID ELM<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <em>Ulmus (carpinfolia x parvifolia) &#8216;Frontier&#8217;<\/em><\/li>\n<li> 25 ft high, 15 ft wide (19y) (40h+, 30w) ;<\/li>\n<li> USDA 5-8<\/li>\n<li> <u>References<\/u>:&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usna.usda.gov\/Newintro\/frontie1.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.usna.usda.gov\/Newintro\/frontie1.html<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ulmus_%27Frontier%27\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ulmus_%27Frontier%27<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coloradotrees.org\/treeomonth\/2002\/feb_02.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.coloradotrees.org\/treeomonth\/2002\/feb_02.htm<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trimpines.com\/treeoftheweek\/frontierelm.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.trimpines.com\/treeoftheweek\/frontierelm.htm<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/shade-trees.tripod.com\/families\/selections\/frontier_elm.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/shade-trees.tripod.com\/families\/selections\/frontier_elm.html<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.soonerplantfarm.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=plants.plantDetail&amp;plant_id=35\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.soonerplantfarm.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=plants.plantDetail&amp;plant_id=35<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.urbanforestryservices.com\/proffrontierelm.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.urbanforestryservices.com\/proffrontierelm.htm<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <u>Pros<\/u>: Mdm\/fast-growing (12-18&#8243;\/yr); urban\/drought tolerant; disease-resistant; fall color; shade; songbirds; easy to transplant; tolerates poor soil; no seeds<\/li>\n<li> <u>Cons<\/u>: Avg water soil, well-drained; elm beetle resistance only moderate; potential winter damage<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>The Smaller Trees<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>TATARIAN MAPLE (&#8220;HOT WINGS&#8221;)<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <em>Acer tataricum &#8220;GarAnn&#8221;<\/em><\/li>\n<li> 15-18 ft in 12y (30 ft; 20&#8242; x 20&#8242;)<\/li>\n<li> USDA 4-10 (up to 7000&#8242;)<\/li>\n<li> <u>References<\/u>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ext.colostate.edu\/ptlk\/2035.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.ext.colostate.edu\/ptlk\/2035.html<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Acer_tataricum\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Acer_tataricum<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hort.uconn.edu\/Plants\/a\/acetat\/acetat1.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.hort.uconn.edu\/Plants\/a\/acetat\/acetat1.html<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coloradonga.org\/documents\/Week_2_PS_Hot_Wings_Tartarian_Maple.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.coloradonga.org\/documents\/Week_2_PS_Hot_Wings_Tartarian_Maple.pdf<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/129.82.181.23\/plant_details.php?plant_number=81\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/129.82.181.23\/plant_details.php?plant_number=81<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freepatentsonline.com\/PP15023.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.freepatentsonline.com\/PP15023.html<\/a> <\/li>\n<li> <u>Pros<\/u>: Plant Select 2007; red seeds mid-summer; sturdy; tolerates dry soil; adaptable; good in cold; tolerates alkaline soils; sturdy; CSU Extension recommended<\/li>\n<li> <u>Cons<\/u>: Slow growth; invasive? (in Connecticut); seedlings<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>PRINCESS KAY (P. K. CANADA) PLUM<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <em>Prunus nigra<\/em><\/li>\n<li> 15-20 ft high, 12-15 ft spread (10-15 ft) (20-30 FT)<\/li>\n<li> USDA 3-9 (7000 ft) (3a) (2-6) (4b-9)<\/li>\n<li> <u>References<\/u>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coloradotrees.org\/treeomonth\/2003\/may_03.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.coloradotrees.org\/treeomonth\/2003\/may_03.htm<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnpower.com\/treebook\/fact80.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.mnpower.com\/treebook\/fact80.html<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/129.82.181.23\/plant_details.php?comment=no&amp;plant_number=32\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/129.82.181.23\/plant_details.php?comment=no&amp;plant_number=32<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.backyardgardener.com\/plantname\/pd_cd04.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.backyardgardener.com\/plantname\/pd_cd04.html<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gulleygreenhouse.com\/princess_kay_plum.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.gulleygreenhouse.com\/princess_kay_plum.html<\/a> <\/li>\n<li> <u>Pros<\/u>: Plant Select 2000; spring blooms, fragrant; some fall color; moderate\/fast-growing; minimum fruit; tolerates wind; wonderful name \ud83d\ude42<\/li>\n<li> <u>Cons<\/u>: Root suckers; normal-moist soil, well-drained, not very drought-tolerant; potential insect\/disease problems<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>BALI (EVANS, BALI EVANS, EVANS SOUR) CHERRY<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <em>Prunus &#8216;Evans&#8217;, Prunus &#8216;Bali&#8217;, Prunus Cerasus &#8216;Evans&#8217; <\/em> <\/li>\n<li> 10-15 ft, 10 ft wide, 2 ft from ground (15-20 ft)<\/li>\n<li> USDA Zone 3-8 (light soils. no, heavy soils. sandy soils, maybe. poor soils; if in good soil, plant grass on top)<\/li>\n<li> <u>References<\/u>: <a href=\"http:\/\/timberglade.typepad.com\/outside\/2007\/08\/evans-bali-cher.html\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/timberglade.typepad.com\/outside\/2007\/08\/evans-bali-cher.html<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.northscaping.com\/Tools\/LPS-Engine.asp?CCID=10000000&amp;page=pdp&amp;PID=338\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.northscaping.com\/Tools\/LPS-Engine.asp?CCID=10000000&amp;page=pdp&amp;PID=338<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.northscaping.com\/InfoZone\/FS-0097\/FS-0097.shtml\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.northscaping.com\/InfoZone\/FS-0097\/FS-0097.shtml<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org\/forums\/showthread.php?t=8664\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org\/forums\/showthread.php?t=8664<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.canada.com\/edmontonjournal\/news\/story.html?id=dca25d83-e932-4154-9a9d-898a17eeda44&amp;k=21361\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.canada.com\/edmontonjournal\/news\/story.html?id=dca25d83-e932-4154-9a9d-898a17eeda44&amp;k=21361<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dnagardens.com\/Articles\/cherry_evans_tips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.dnagardens.com\/Articles\/cherry_evans_tips.htm<\/a> <\/li>\n<li> <u>Pros<\/u>:&nbsp;&nbsp;Sour cherries, good for cooking, birds; fall foliage; extremely hardy; showy fruit, slow to drop; mdm growth; 30y age; &#8220;thrives on neglect&#8221;; top-selling fruit tree in Canada; self-polinating; hardy (when drought-stressed in late summer); recommended by the landscaper.<\/li>\n<li> <u>Cons<\/u>: Well-drained; fruit do drop (mess); average to moist soil; suckering<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So, that&#8217;s what we got. If anyone in the studio audience has some experience with any of these, I welcome hearing about it. My personal inclination (not yet agreed-upon with Margie) is the Wasatch Maple for the big tree, but I keep going in circles for the smaller ones.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So one of our Decision Points for the front yard re-landscape is trees. 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