{"id":129536,"date":"2016-01-22T12:41:16","date_gmt":"2016-01-22T19:41:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/01\/22\/liking-legends-of-tomorrow.html"},"modified":"2016-02-08T22:23:10","modified_gmt":"2016-02-09T05:23:10","slug":"liking-legends-of-tomorrow","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/01\/22\/liking-legends-of-tomorrow.html","title":{"rendered":"Liking &quot;Legends of Tomorrow&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There was actually a fair amount to like about the CW&#39;s new DC hero series, the <i>Flash\/Arrow<\/i> spin-off <i>Legends of Tomorrow<\/i> &#8212; if nothing else that it cleans out both series of some decent characters that were cluttering up the core storylines.<\/p>\n<p>As a run-down:<\/p>\n<p><b>Rip Hunter<\/b> &#8211; Okay, he&#39;s new, and everyone finds casing the erstwhile Rory as a rogue time-traveler a hoot, but so far he&#39;s doing a good job of the slightly off-beat and dreadfully earnest.<\/p>\n<p><b>Firestorm<\/b> &#8211; It will be interesting to see if they do anything with his powers beyond flamy energy blasty stuff. Kidnapping Jax to go run off time traveling was kind of a dick move, but actually just what I&#39;d expect from Sidney Bristow&#39;s dad.<\/p>\n<p><b>Atom<\/b> &#8211; I keep wanting to like this character more than I have in <i>Arrow;<\/i> the fault is more with the uneven writing than Brandon Routh&#39;s acting. I hope he&#39;s able to stabilize into more than just an Iron Man wannabe who can shrink.<\/p>\n<p><b>White Canary<\/b> &#8211; It&#39;s good to see the better of the Lance sisters (in stage fighting ability, at least) get a more central role. The whole League-of-Assassins Lazarus-Pit-curse thing should be fun.<\/p>\n<p><b>Hawkman<\/b> and <b>Hawkgirl<\/b> &#8211; Two of my favorite comics characters (in most of their incarnations), they&#39;re being played very straight here, but the melodrama of their past lives, the lack of the alien Thanagar connection, and the forced integration with Vandal Savage&#39;s past feels a bit jumbled. They&#39;re a pair that could use their own series, frankly, and I&#39;m afraid their arc will be difficult to pull off here.<\/p>\n<p><b>Captain Cold<\/b> and <b>Heat Wave<\/b> &#8211; Okay, these guys make the show (and, along with Canary, the best scenes and quips in the opener). They are a refreshing bit of self-interest amongst the too-noble heroic types, great comic relief, and Wentworth Miller just has too much snarky fun as Snart.<\/p>\n<p>Actually, the biggest problem I have so far is that Caspar Crump&#39;s <b>Vandal Savage<\/b> hasn&#39;t the gravitas or savagery about him to make him more than a dime store villain. By tying his origin into the Hawks, it&#39;s actually diminished his impact, and, with few exceptions, I&#39;ve been unimpressed. That&#39;s worrisome, since this show is all about defeating his schemes. Here&#39;s hoping that improves.<\/p>\n<p>The villain aside, the reason for getting the band together (and the revealed reason as well) are a great setup, so that should help the overall show quite a bit. The challenge (aside from doing stuff with the characters to help them develop over time) is that, in many ways, this is a wildly powerful group &#8212; the only way to get a decent challenge is either really powerful adversaries in return, or having them be the gang that can&#39;t shoot straight (which is sort of what happened with the battle against Chronos in the opening episode); that latter is not going to sit well for long.<\/p>\n<p>Overall, for all that I really don&#39;t need an additional show to be watching (glances at DVR queue and non-DVR list), I have pretty high hopes for the show being some good, comic booky fun. And, sometimes, that&#39;s just what I want.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"sm2wpreshared\">Originally shared by <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930'>+Curt Thompson<\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Blah, blah, save the world. Yak, yak, forge your destiny. Vandal Savage, whatever.<\/p>\n<p>You give me supervillain road trip scenes like last night&#39;s bar brawl every few episodes and I&#39;ll stick with you seven seasons, <b>Legends of Tomorrow<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>Even with that stupid name.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div style='text-align:center'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/photos\/112539429469437111274\/albums\/6242640137972097761\/6242640139776506482'><img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-Tun7BLtGQk4\/VqJQIdf5OnI\/AAAAAAAAXjM\/2sUgMFVe-bU\/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow.png?imgmax=660' style='max-width:650px;' \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style='text-align:center'>\n<a href='' style='width:50px;height:50px;display:inline-block;background-size:cover;background-image:url();'><\/a>\u00a0\n<\/div>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/DhoAwNzLPsn'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There was actually a fair amount to like about the CW&#39;s new DC hero series, the Flash\/Arrow spin-off Legends of Tomorrow &#8212; if nothing else that it cleans out both series of some decent characters that were cluttering up the core storylines. As a run-down: Rip Hunter &#8211; Okay, he&#39;s new, and everyone finds casing &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/01\/22\/liking-legends-of-tomorrow.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Liking &quot;Legends of Tomorrow&quot;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":129537,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,852],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-129536","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts","category-dc-cinematic-univese"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow.pngimgmax=660.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":50552,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/05\/07\/dc-and-cw-go-super-person-crazy.html","url_meta":{"origin":129536,"position":0},"title":"DC and CW go Super-Person Crazy","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 7-May-15 3:01pm","format":false,"excerpt":"But in a good way. 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