{"id":130222,"date":"2016-03-17T23:00:09","date_gmt":"2016-03-18T05:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/03\/17\/can-the-anti-trump-gop-mount-a-3rd-party-opposition.html"},"modified":"2016-03-17T23:00:09","modified_gmt":"2016-03-18T05:00:09","slug":"can-the-anti-trump-gop-mount-a-3rd-party-opposition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/03\/17\/can-the-anti-trump-gop-mount-a-3rd-party-opposition.html","title":{"rendered":"Can the Anti-Trump GOP mount a 3rd Party opposition?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#39;s a very weird tangle between the laws of states (who control how elections are run) and the rules of parties (who can choose candidates, in theory, however they want). Both the GOP and the Democrats have rigged the deck against third parties to keep them from winning, or keeping new ones from blindsiding them &#8212; which is part of the serious obstacles that anti-Trump forces face in this discussion.<\/p>\n<p>But the article does miss one major point: the goal of such a contest would not realistically be to <i>win<\/i> in the November election, but to keep Trump (and Clinton\/Sanders) from winning a majority of electoral votes, acting as a &quot;spoiler&quot; for both  parties. That&#39;s a lot more viable (if still Herculean) goal, since at that point the election moves, under the 12th Amendment, into the House for President and the Senate for Veep, and both of those chambers are controlled by the GOP.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.politico.com\/magazine\/story\/2016\/03\/2016-donald-trump-third-party-213743'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/n3QX43jhKH5WYfTUjxYN8v-LEm5tjfW-vXKvUOi845z45CQkp8paMBxxv8skS9rO5m1Sp3IFH-8X01vQt1Yq8oJhwTqwU-3Ju1u1eqX_UBt3hJjxhFXwLvwyv4U9kJo=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.politico.com\/magazine\/story\/2016\/03\/2016-donald-trump-third-party-213743'>Sorry, Conservatives, It&rsquo;s Likely Too Late for a Viable Third-Party Candidate<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nState laws make the GOP&#8217;s last chance against Trump nearly impossible.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/Nxs5AhjEyL3'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#39;s a very weird tangle between the laws of states (who control how elections are run) and the rules of parties (who can choose candidates, in theory, however they want). Both the GOP and the Democrats have rigged the deck against third parties to keep them from winning, or keeping new ones from blindsiding them &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/03\/17\/can-the-anti-trump-gop-mount-a-3rd-party-opposition.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Can the Anti-Trump GOP mount a 3rd Party opposition?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-130222","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":130737,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/05\/23\/just-lie-back-close-your-eyes-and-think-of-reagan.html","url_meta":{"origin":130222,"position":0},"title":"&quot;Just lie back, close your eyes, and think of Reagan&quot;","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 23-May-16 9:49pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Sen. 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They think a shutdown is fine, that letting the federal government grind to a halt unless Donald gets his Great Wall is okay ... but they want it after the election, because otherwise it might hurt their\u00a0 chances in November. 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And the churches?Well, that's what Donald Trump says, at least when he's speaking to the Christian Broadcasting Network:'I think it\u2019s\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":129998,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/03\/02\/primary-wins-losses-and-in-betweens-9.html","url_meta":{"origin":130222,"position":5},"title":"Primary Wins, Losses, and In-Betweens","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 2-Mar-16 12:11am","format":false,"excerpt":"While I am not quite as given-up on our \"Useless Media\" as some, the Super Tuesday coverage was driving both +Margie Kleerup and me mad.(1) \"Winning\" a state doesn't mean what you think it means, Big Network Coverage Talking Heads; we don't have winner-take-all selections as in most general presidential\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/130222","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=130222"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/130222\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=130222"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=130222"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=130222"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}