{"id":130488,"date":"2016-04-25T10:22:31","date_gmt":"2016-04-25T16:22:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/04\/25\/sovereign-citizens-of-cloud-cuckoo-land.html"},"modified":"2016-05-02T22:15:17","modified_gmt":"2016-05-03T04:15:17","slug":"sovereign-citizens-of-cloud-cuckoo-land","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/04\/25\/sovereign-citizens-of-cloud-cuckoo-land.html","title":{"rendered":"Sovereign Citizens of Cloud-Cuckoo Land"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I do have to give credit to Ammon Bundy and the whole clan of Malheur occupiers for sticking with their premise, i.e., the feds don&#39;t rightfully own Malheur Refuge, so the occupiers couldn&#39;t possibly be trespassing, so all charges should be dropped.<\/p>\n<p>It&#39;s no more likely to succeed than efforts to exempt oneself from income taxes or speed limits, but at least they&#39;re sticking by their zany story.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"sm2wpreshared\">Originally shared by <a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/101083456815352083930'>+Les Jenkins<\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Good luck with that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/patch.com\/oregon\/portland\/oregon-standoff-latest-ammon-bundy-s-lawyers-say-charges-should-be-dropped-because-feds-dont-own'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/1lH42fAYZNN6WGm53XniEKIUYj_WPNOm77pPwR2tLQ1cpYWUlFf7yIv1xsmP19_0deE3idxH9up1DIVK1MaakDFoUnOxhMi0ltPdydIiOzN0KCl9Hrm-OV7CvQlR=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/patch.com\/oregon\/portland\/oregon-standoff-latest-ammon-bundy-s-lawyers-say-charges-should-be-dropped-because-feds-dont-own'>Oregon Standoff Latest: Ammon Bundy &#8216;s Lawyers Say Charges Should be Dropped Because the Feds Don&#8217;t Own Malheur Refuge<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nIn papers filed Friday, lawyers for Ammon Bundy say they plan to use a controversial argument to get the charges dropped.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/JtSNf9QqJfG'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I do have to give credit to Ammon Bundy and the whole clan of Malheur occupiers for sticking with their premise, i.e., the feds don&#39;t rightfully own Malheur Refuge, so the occupiers couldn&#39;t possibly be trespassing, so all charges should be dropped. It&#39;s no more likely to succeed than efforts to exempt oneself from income &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/04\/25\/sovereign-citizens-of-cloud-cuckoo-land.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Sovereign Citizens of Cloud-Cuckoo Land&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,381,358],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-130488","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-conspiracy-nuts","category-poor-citizenship"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":23872,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2011\/11\/20\/will-the-occupiers-strike-back.html","url_meta":{"origin":130488,"position":0},"title":"Will the Occupiers strike back?","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 20-Nov-11 2:41pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I suspect it will happen, sooner or later. I suspect, faced with batons and pepper spray, someone will ratchet up the response, will escalate matters, and from there things will get extremely nasty.I also strongly suspect that the Occupy leaders, such as they are, are doing their darnedest to keep\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":129340,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/01\/04\/more-on-the-oregon-brouhaha.html","url_meta":{"origin":130488,"position":1},"title":"More on the Oregon brouhaha","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 4-Jan-16 12:57pm","format":false,"excerpt":"The legal story behind this is actually an interesting story of zealous lawmakers, unintended consequences, bad labels, zealous prosecutors, mandatory sentencing, and public and private land use issues. 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