{"id":130527,"date":"2016-05-01T05:07:27","date_gmt":"2016-05-01T11:07:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/05\/01\/the-non-police-state.html"},"modified":"2016-05-02T17:20:49","modified_gmt":"2016-05-02T23:20:49","slug":"the-non-police-state","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/05\/01\/the-non-police-state.html","title":{"rendered":"The Non-Police State"},"content":{"rendered":"

So I wouldn't have guessed this.. Compared to most countries, the US has far fewer police per capita. More prisoners (and, perforce, correction officers), but a lot fewer police. Are the two connected? Do fewer police on the street make for more less deterrence, fewer arrests — but, therefore, harsher punishment when people do get caught?<\/p>\n

I wonder as well if part of this is a difference in how prison, vs police, is paid for. The local police are paid for in city and county taxes; state and federal investigators are usually for larger-scale cases, not street crime. Prison, on the other hand, are usually paid for on the state and federal level. If those were aligned, I have to wonder if both the statistics and the reality would be different.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\nHere’s a remarkable graph from the Council of Economic Advisers report on incarceration and the criminal justice system. The graph shows that the United States employs many more prison guards per-capita than does the rest of the world. Given our prison population that isn’t surprising. What is surprising is that on a per-capita basis we employ 35% …\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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So I wouldn't have guessed this.. Compared to most countries, the US has far fewer police per capita. More prisoners (and, perforce, correction officers), but a lot fewer police. Are the two connected? 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