{"id":130839,"date":"2016-06-09T22:25:38","date_gmt":"2016-06-10T04:25:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/06\/09\/never-count-on-the-democrats-not-blowing-an-election.html"},"modified":"2016-06-11T15:36:35","modified_gmt":"2016-06-11T21:36:35","slug":"never-count-on-the-democrats-not-blowing-an-election","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/06\/09\/never-count-on-the-democrats-not-blowing-an-election.html","title":{"rendered":"Never count on the Democrats NOT blowing an election"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>While I have been generally in support of Clinton as the Democratic nominee, for a variety of mostly pragmatic reasons, if the Democratic establishment thinks her nomination means they can blow off the sizable chunk of pro-Sanders \/ anti-establishment voters who kept Clinton&#39;s efforts from being a casual saunter to party coronation, then they are cruisin&#39; for a bruisin&#39; this fall.<\/p>\n<p>And while I firmly believe that every Sanders supporter <i>should<\/i> be pulling the voting lever for Clinton in November, despite any nose-pinching, if only to keep Trump out of the White House, the Dems can&#39;t afford to lose <i>any<\/i> of those votes to further neglect or alienation.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#39;t believe Sanders&#39; populist movement could actually have won (yet) in November &#8212; but they can surely cause Clinton to lose if the party establishment sufficiently disrespects them. And given that these are the folk in the age bracket \/ demographic surge that the Dems are counting on to eventually tip the tide against the GOP, pooh-poohing their concerns and impact would be a horrifyingly stupid mistake &#8212; <i>especially<\/i> given the stakes this fall.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#39;s hoping that the Democratic establishment isn&#39;t as doltish as the article suspects they are.<\/p>\n<p>[h\/t <span class=\"proflinkWrapper\"><span class=\"proflinkPrefix\">+<\/span><a class=\"proflink\" href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/109916779695016690032\" oid=\"109916779695016690032\">Stan Pedzick<\/a><\/span>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/politics\/news\/democrats-will-learn-all-the-wrong-lessons-from-brush-with-bernie-20160609'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/DApttoNjcjeynKgkCuZ4BYQwjnAE64kQ6_--8xcvcEW2ch7Nmrd0qxy61Of35mUgRgBfQxoLU7PRz1WAoGZaWZN0a7_00sfENC94QR3hSka1ZnJH9fphdlO6YiKlX5XnrCFVI8dhkpQVS2JgBJmAQ_5iuueEgrlJVQmmw8n6IxyphLMXZu02CFlzHkPHEp2gfluFEoOZwNiVObHxImJPJjEjOZi5B77RX_CZwo6b8BwbW4w6yKU0YK316T6kxelw2O2FQzgxJ6U=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/politics\/news\/democrats-will-learn-all-the-wrong-lessons-from-brush-with-bernie-20160609'>Democrats Will Learn All the Wrong Lessons From Brush With Bernie<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nInstead of a reality check for the party, it&#8217;ll be smugness redoubled\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/KLzLExLz6Go'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While I have been generally in support of Clinton as the Democratic nominee, for a variety of mostly pragmatic reasons, if the Democratic establishment thinks her nomination means they can blow off the sizable chunk of pro-Sanders \/ anti-establishment voters who kept Clinton&#39;s efforts from being a casual saunter to party coronation, then they are &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/06\/09\/never-count-on-the-democrats-not-blowing-an-election.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Never count on the Democrats NOT blowing an election&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,532],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-130839","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-elections-2016"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":129883,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/02\/21\/the-non-party-folk-in-the-two-party-system.html","url_meta":{"origin":130839,"position":0},"title":"The non-party folk in the two-party system","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 21-Feb-16 7:03am","format":false,"excerpt":"Exit polls have their own problems, but if this one's results are accurate, they are pretty interesting. 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But I've seen it floating around in a lot of circles, and so I'm going to spend a lot of words summarizing my thoughts on it.)(Also, this is written\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/vote%2B-%2Bapathy%2Bsolves%2Bnothing.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":133307,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/04\/21\/this-is-not-how-the-democrats-will-win.html","url_meta":{"origin":130839,"position":2},"title":"This is not how the Democrats will win","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 21-Apr-17 10:15am","format":false,"excerpt":"So I realize that campaign money is not an unlimited resource. And I personally have some political bones to pick with the Sanders-style populists within the broad confines of the Democratic movement.But the Democratic establishment in the DNC has been shooting itself in the foot (or, as +Stan Pedzick puts\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":130494,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/04\/26\/just-a-reminder-for-my-democrat-friends.html","url_meta":{"origin":130839,"position":3},"title":"Just a reminder for my Democrat friends","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 26-Apr-16 12:25am","format":false,"excerpt":"Love your preference for nominee. Examine them closely, but go with your heart, make that primary\/caucus vote, play your role in the system, speak out about how your candidate is the best hope for America.But, really, honestly, truly: if you are part of the crowd talking about how \"if my\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":129576,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/01\/30\/yeah-pretty-much-my-thoughts-on-the-democratic-nomination-this-year.html","url_meta":{"origin":130839,"position":4},"title":"Yeah, pretty much my thoughts on the Democratic nomination this year","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 30-Jan-16 4:39pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Newspaper editorial board endorsements of candidates aren't usually something I pay much attention to, and that it's the NYT in this case is neither surprising nor, for me, meaningful. But their endorsement of Clinton lines up with my thoughts on her. I don't know that she's my idea candidate, but\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":130830,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/06\/09\/on-the-clinton-nomination.html","url_meta":{"origin":130839,"position":5},"title":"On the Clinton Nomination","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 9-Jun-16 1:31pm","format":false,"excerpt":"What +John Scalzi says. Pretty much all of it. 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