{"id":131052,"date":"2016-07-10T22:22:25","date_gmt":"2016-07-11T04:22:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/07\/10\/the-risk-of-multiple-shooters.html"},"modified":"2016-07-10T22:22:25","modified_gmt":"2016-07-11T04:22:25","slug":"the-risk-of-multiple-shooters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/07\/10\/the-risk-of-multiple-shooters.html","title":{"rendered":"The risk of &quot;multiple shooters&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>During the Dallas police shooting, matters were serious complicated by a number of protesters who showed up with slung semi-automatic weapons, in accord with Texas&#39; Open Carry laws. Problem is, once the shooting started,  police apparently had problems figuring out how many shooters there were, and which of the folk running away might be among them.<\/p>\n<p>This time it ended only in mistaken arrests. Next time, it&#39;s all too easy to imagine a far worse outcome.<\/p>\n<p>(Oh, all those &quot;good guys with guns&quot;? None of them &#8212; aside from the cops &#8212; appear to have done anything about the &quot;bad guy with a gun&quot;. And that&#39;s probably just as well, too, because that would have likely ended <i>far<\/i> worse all around.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/07\/11\/us\/texas-open-carry-laws-blurred-lines-between-suspects-and-marchers.html?partner=rss&#038;emc=rss'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/VNrLC2_2SZSSt-xNbTGAbjTet4aBnkWPGesR1jwu8qBiK5U1cLd27E5DJf8TxTDCs4JVqWPI7fFilVVVP03e60rxgrjfPitBM3nQqGWjX-dCfRXClttYvLIWQO4kRfFNpvKRHxxGkdcM=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/07\/11\/us\/texas-open-carry-laws-blurred-lines-between-suspects-and-marchers.html?partner=rss&#038;emc=rss'>Texas Open-Carry Laws Blurred Lines Between Suspects and Marchers &#8211; The New York Times<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nThe mayor of Dallas suggests tightening the state&rsquo;s gun laws to make it tougher to carry long arms in public.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/1DkdZjnAx8e'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>During the Dallas police shooting, matters were serious complicated by a number of protesters who showed up with slung semi-automatic weapons, in accord with Texas&#39; Open Carry laws. Problem is, once the shooting started, police apparently had problems figuring out how many shooters there were, and which of the folk running away might be among &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/07\/10\/the-risk-of-multiple-shooters.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The risk of &quot;multiple shooters&quot;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-131052","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":45450,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/09\/22\/can-we-stop-mass-shooters-before-they-start-shooting.html","url_meta":{"origin":131052,"position":0},"title":"Can we stop mass shooters before they start shooting?","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 22-Sep-14 2:29pm","format":false,"excerpt":"This article indicates it may be possible -- but the structure of our government and the society it serves (and is shaped by) seem to make it unlikely that the ideas of threat assessment will ever be widely expanded or integrated beyond a very high or very low level.Federalism, multiple\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":136493,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/18\/none-dare-call-it-a-police-state.html","url_meta":{"origin":131052,"position":1},"title":"None dare call it a police state","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 18-May-18 10:39pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Sean Hannity, Fox News' preeminent talent, on how to solve the problems of school shootings (emphasis added): The issue here -- well, there is some issues with gun safety, you can't let mentally ill people have guns. Criminals don't obey the laws by their very nature. We also have to\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/sean-hannity.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":129093,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2015\/12\/08\/yes-teenagers-charging-people-with-guns-is-a-great-idea.html","url_meta":{"origin":131052,"position":2},"title":"Yes, teenagers charging people with guns is a GREAT idea!","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 8-Dec-15 4:36pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Law enforcement (and, also, sane people) suggest that in case you are in an active shooter situation, you should:1. If at all possible, get the hell out of there.2. If you can't get away, then hide.3. 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