{"id":131164,"date":"2016-07-31T15:38:19","date_gmt":"2016-07-31T21:38:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/07\/31\/that-time-trump-was-incoherent-about-ukraine-and-russia.html"},"modified":"2016-07-31T15:38:19","modified_gmt":"2016-07-31T21:38:19","slug":"that-time-trump-was-incoherent-about-ukraine-and-russia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/07\/31\/that-time-trump-was-incoherent-about-ukraine-and-russia.html","title":{"rendered":"That time Trump was incoherent about Ukraine and Russia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>&#39;Donald Trump said Sunday that Russian President Vladimir Putin won&#39;t make a military move into Ukraine &#8212; even though Putin already has done just that, seizing the country&#39;s Crimean Peninsula. &quot;He&#39;s not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He&#39;s not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want,&quot; Trump said in an interview with ABC&#39;s George Stephanopoulos on &quot;This Week.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>_&quot;Well, he&#39;s already there, isn&#39;t he?&quot; Stephanopoulos responded, in a reference to Crimea, which Putin took from Ukraine in early 2014.<\/p>\n<p>_Trump said: &quot;OK &#8212; well, he&#39;s there in a certain way. But I&#39;m not there. You have Obama there. And frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under Obama with all the strength that you&#39;re talking about and all of the power of NATO and all of this. In the meantime, he&#39;s going away. He takes Crimea.&quot;<\/p>\n<p><i>Stephanopoulos interjected to note that Trump has suggested he could recognize Russia&#39;s claim on Crimea over Ukraine&#39;s &#8212; and Trump didn&#39;t back away from that possibility in the interview. &quot;I&#39;m going to take a look at it,&quot; he said. &quot;But you know, the people of Crimea, from what I&#39;ve heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also &#8230; just so you understand, that was done under Obama&#39;s administration.&quot;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>Trump added: &quot;And as far as the Ukraine is concerned, it&#39;s a mess. And that&#39;s under the Obama&#39;s administration with his strong ties to NATO. So with all of these strong ties to NATO, Ukraine is a mess. Crimea has been taken. Don&#39;t blame Donald Trump for that.&quot;&#39;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Ladies and Gentlemen, the GOP Candidate for US President and Leader of the Free World.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2016\/07\/31\/politics\/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin\/index.html'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/-dhfk6VE08M6Trz5xeuUnehNex3EGG0sNQwxqD7LTkFgHBuaNIO6qDxKE7L6133_zP2HW-EvXRqamvROKrlhCC4s6q9MN05S3L6jmJdjYhuvG2Q1flq0pU1LD-4DacTCVk_vy4c7Vh-z4r4y2g1xKL9BivR0ymDo_yAersW4=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2016\/07\/31\/politics\/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin\/index.html'>Trump says Putin is &#8216;not going to go into Ukraine,&#8217; despite Crimea<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nDonald Trump said Sunday that Russian President Vladimir Putin won&#8217;t make a military move into Ukraine &#8212; even though Putin already has done just that, seizing the country&#8217;s Crimean Peninsula.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/dX8VcBDkUtU'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#39;Donald Trump said Sunday that Russian President Vladimir Putin won&#39;t make a military move into Ukraine &#8212; even though Putin already has done just that, seizing the country&#39;s Crimean Peninsula. &quot;He&#39;s not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He&#39;s not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/07\/31\/that-time-trump-was-incoherent-about-ukraine-and-russia.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;That time Trump was incoherent about Ukraine and Russia&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-131164","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":156328,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2022\/02\/24\/yes-putin-is-acting-because-he-sees-weakness-but.html","url_meta":{"origin":131164,"position":0},"title":"Yes, Putin is acting because he sees weakness. 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