{"id":131359,"date":"2016-08-26T20:25:43","date_gmt":"2016-08-27T02:25:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/08\/26\/so-who-was-it-again-who-created-isil.html"},"modified":"2016-08-26T20:25:43","modified_gmt":"2016-08-27T02:25:43","slug":"so-who-was-it-again-who-created-isil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/08\/26\/so-who-was-it-again-who-created-isil.html","title":{"rendered":"So &#8230; who was it again who created ISIL?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s more complex than all this, and if he was captured in Fallujah it&#39;s likely that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi &#8212; the leader of ISIL &#8212; wasn&#39;t some naif formed only by this singular incident. But one has to imagine that being locked up in the notorious American Abu Ghraib prison didn&#39;t help the man&#39;s stability, equanimity, or attitude toward the West.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='https:\/\/theintercept.com\/2016\/08\/25\/u-s-military-now-says-isis-leader-was-held-in-notorious-abu-ghraib-prison\/'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/RpmZuDADIvDC_mdbsQ2E6tOVFy9N_R8K6l35-yU8ng0jei4WtX7t_g4ToOf2PgwvcO-ti0gHZvOYBOsdFN8Sgu2rjCRadCWTisGwrv3Ue3Xr6ahHSbABcf5GxNiqFgZsy7gvdxM2ji3rib0=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='https:\/\/theintercept.com\/2016\/08\/25\/u-s-military-now-says-isis-leader-was-held-in-notorious-abu-ghraib-prison\/'>U.S. Military Now Says ISIS Leader Was Held in Notorious Abu Ghraib Prison<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nAbu Bakr al-Baghdadi&rsquo;s presence at the infamous prison may shed new light on the role U.S. detention facilities played in the rise of the Islamic State.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/QsEHEEYKWep'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#39;s more complex than all this, and if he was captured in Fallujah it&#39;s likely that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi &#8212; the leader of ISIL &#8212; wasn&#39;t some naif formed only by this singular incident. But one has to imagine that being locked up in the notorious American Abu Ghraib prison didn&#39;t help the man&#39;s stability, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/08\/26\/so-who-was-it-again-who-created-isil.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;So &#8230; who was it again who created ISIL?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-131359","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":131873,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/10\/24\/the-president-cant-declare-torture-legal.html","url_meta":{"origin":131359,"position":0},"title":"The President can&#039;t declare torture legal","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 24-Oct-16 9:30pm","format":false,"excerpt":"That should actually be a relief to everyone, even if they're really scared of Evil Muslim Terrorists. 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