{"id":132307,"date":"2016-12-15T08:11:09","date_gmt":"2016-12-15T15:11:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/12\/15\/its-not-wrong-if-everyone-knows-youre-doing-it.html"},"modified":"2016-12-15T20:46:22","modified_gmt":"2016-12-16T03:46:22","slug":"its-not-wrong-if-everyone-knows-youre-doing-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/12\/15\/its-not-wrong-if-everyone-knows-youre-doing-it.html","title":{"rendered":"It&#039;s not wrong if everyone knows you&#039;re doing it!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yeah, I saw this quote yesterday and couldn&#39;t quite believe it. It&#39;s from RNC spokescritter Sean Spicer, who&#39;s been working closely with the Trump transition team. <\/p>\n<p><i>&#39;Conflicts of interest arise when you&rsquo;re not &ndash; when you&rsquo;re sneaky about it, when you&rsquo;re shady about it, when you&rsquo;re not transparent about it.&#39;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>No, conflicts of interest arise when you have decisions to make and a <i>conflict<\/i> in deciding between what benefits one <i>interest<\/i> (say, the American people) or another <i>interest<\/i> (say, your family business). That&#39;s what a conflict of interest is. Having that conflict in public, with &quot;transparency,&quot; doesn&#39;t make it go away, it just makes you look like a corrupt excuse for a public official. And having personal legal immunity to some conflict of interest laws doesn&#39;t make having those conflicts ethical.<\/p>\n<p>But this is part and parcel of Donald Trump &#8212; brazen assertions, daring people to question them, then either handwaving the questions or attacking the questioners. It&#39;s taking social conventions, blowing through them, and daring anyone to say no. It&#39;s normalizing bad behavior, and justifying it as &quot;because I can.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>It is, to use the word, deplorable.  The question then becomes, what to do about it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/rachel-maddow-show\/facing-conflict-interest-allegations-trump-tries-brazenness'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/GFIvCsn6ZHROAl1ijKEnSEmPBlqSq_gkf3l5EwxVgnI6CYIwfFX6tmmhHTF465xif75VMa-mZL6VkzxCPpN2qPAmo7Z5mdNf3D83Z6gauXusdDocoIOyZViF-zZeQYgOdp59lW0p1fumaNHQQN60N5PKPKjOUnE=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/rachel-maddow-show\/facing-conflict-interest-allegations-trump-tries-brazenness'>Facing conflict-of-interest allegations, Trump tries brazenness<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s not just the corruption; it&#8217;s the brazenness. Faced with questions about conflicts of interest, Donald Trump is making no effort to hide his actions.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/PLmn8xpC33X'>View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yeah, I saw this quote yesterday and couldn&#39;t quite believe it. It&#39;s from RNC spokescritter Sean Spicer, who&#39;s been working closely with the Trump transition team. &#39;Conflicts of interest arise when you&rsquo;re not &ndash; when you&rsquo;re sneaky about it, when you&rsquo;re shady about it, when you&rsquo;re not transparent about it.&#39; No, conflicts of interest arise &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/12\/15\/its-not-wrong-if-everyone-knows-youre-doing-it.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;It&#039;s not wrong if everyone knows you&#039;re doing it!&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,35,374],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-132307","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-big-business","category-money-politics"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":132439,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/12\/24\/interest-in-ending-the-conflict-over-conflicts-of-interest.html","url_meta":{"origin":132307,"position":0},"title":"Interest in ending the conflict over Conflicts of Interest","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 24-Dec-16 3:40pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Despite repeated denials that there are any such things, it seems Donald Trump and his family are taking a number of actions -- insufficient but a start -- to address the problems of family conflicts of interest, now that Donald will be the executive in charge of the Federal Government.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":132091,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/11\/22\/its-good-to-be-the-president.html","url_meta":{"origin":132307,"position":1},"title":"It&#039;s GOOD to be the President!","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 22-Nov-16 2:42pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Imagine it! When you're President of the United States, you never have any conflicts of interest!'\"The law's totally on my side. 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I've discussed that earlier (and will likely do something more focused later on).\u25ba I will be making my announcement on the next Secretary of State tomorrow morning.[https:\/\/twitter.com\/realDonaldTrump\/status\/808469755749339136]Winter is coming ...And today:\u25ba I have chosen one of the truly\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/rtr39j4q5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/rtr39j4q5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/rtr39j4q5B15D.jpgimgmax%3D660.png?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":131539,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/09\/14\/trump-doesnt-seem-to-understand-conflict-of-interest.html","url_meta":{"origin":132307,"position":5},"title":"Trump doesn&#039;t seem to understand &quot;conflict of interest&quot;","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 14-Sep-16 7:30pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Dear Donald: Giving your national and international assets to your kids doesn't mean you no longer have a conflict of interest in domestic and international policy you might pursue.I'm not sure which is worse: thinking that you know this, or thinking that you don't know this. 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