{"id":13295,"date":"2009-01-27T20:56:00","date_gmt":"2009-01-28T03:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2009\/01\/27\/but-some-civilian-lives-are-worth-more-than-others.html"},"modified":"2009-01-27T20:56:00","modified_gmt":"2009-01-28T03:56:00","slug":"but_some_civilian_lives_a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2009\/01\/27\/but_some_civilian_lives_a.html","title":{"rendered":"But some civilian lives are worth more than others"},"content":{"rendered":"

Bill O’Reilly thinks Hamed Karzai is an ungrateful little snot<\/a>, just because Afghan civilians are being killed by US and NATO troops during missions against Taliban fighters.<\/p>\n

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OREILLY: U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan are risking their lives to protect the Afghan people from the Taliban and al Qaeda. But President Karzai does not seem to get that. Once again, he has condemned American forces after a raid killed some civilians.<\/p>\n

In that raid, a top Taliban commander and some of his cronies were also killed, but apparently, Karzai doesn\u2019t understand that in war, collateral damage is constantly present. U.S. military is investigating the situation, but Check believes Karzai is making a political grandstand play, and it is insulting. Without us, his head is on a stick.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Right. Karzai is urging the US to try to minimize or avoid civilian casualties<\/a> — casualties that even Defense Secty Gates says is doing our interests “enormous harm<\/a>” — but O’Reilly thinks its all posturing and insults.<\/p>\n

Of course, I seem to recall that one of the reasons we went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq was “to fight them over there so that we don’t have to fight them over here.” I.e., let’s protect our civilian population. Was that sentiment, too, an insult to our American troops and the cause for which we fight? Or is it just that American civilians are more valuable than Afghan civilians.<\/p>\n

If suspected terrorists are located in the US, and the Air Force bombs an apartment complex, inadvertently killing innocent people — will protests by political leaders also be an insult? Would that also be collateral damage in a good cause? Or would O’Reilly be there on the front lines of the opposition, lambasting the Obama administration for its callous disregard for human life?<\/p>\n

All civilians are equal, but some civilians are more equal than other<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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