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Apparently — and despite United's initial statements (which were picked up by the media), the flight in question was not<\/i> overbooked (which in theory would allow United to trigger its carriage clauses around picking who to leave behind[1]). It was fully<\/i> booked. The number of passengers booked matched the number of seats.<\/p>\n

United simply decided it needed four seats freed up to transfer some personnel — flight crew — to the destination. And that<\/i> isn't something covered by all the United fine print on the ticket as a reason to kick you off.<\/p>\n

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[1] Though that, in turn, has been questioned if the passengers have already boarded: http:\/\/lawnewz.com\/high-profile\/united-cites-wrong-rule-for-illegally-de-boarding-passenger\/<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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\nUnited Airlines Did Not Have the Legal Right to Refuse Service to the Doctor Dragged Off Its Plane<\/a><\/span>
\nA passenger was violently dragged off a flight, but it’s even worse than you thought.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Apparently — and despite United's initial statements (which were picked up by the media), the flight in question was not overbooked (which in theory would allow United to trigger its carriage clauses around picking who to leave behind[1]). It was fully booked. The number of passengers booked matched the number of seats. 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