{"id":134279,"date":"2017-08-18T13:30:04","date_gmt":"2017-08-18T19:30:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=134279"},"modified":"2017-08-18T13:36:00","modified_gmt":"2017-08-18T19:36:00","slug":"lie-dogs-get-fleas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/08\/18\/lie-dogs-get-fleas.html","title":{"rendered":"Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Outing and doxxing people are problematic activities most of the time. As tool used by trolls and harassers of less savory sorts, they&#8217;ve usually been used as an attempt to silence (or open up for targeting) people who get in their way.<\/p>\n<p>But, like most tools and processes, a lot of their merit (or discredit) comes from how they are used. And it&#8217;s hard to feel too much sympathy for a guy who was\u00a0a tiki torch-bearer and white polo shirtist protester in Charlottesville last weekend.<\/p>\n<p>President Trump asserted that there were some &#8220;very good people&#8221; amongst the protesters there, just plain folk who love history and hated to see that Robert E. Lee statue go (for nostalgia&#8217;s sake).<\/p>\n<p>Were there?<\/p>\n<p>Quite possibly. But not after that chanting started. And that screaming. And that saluting. And that waving around of Nazi flags and white power flags and (dare I say) Confederate flags.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/P54sP0Nlngg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>If you stuck around after those groups started doing their thing, if you stood by while your love of 1920s park ornamentation was hijacked by a majority crowd shouting &#8220;Blood and soil!&#8221; and &#8220;Jews will not replace us!&#8221; and giving fascist salutes and assaulting that small ring of counter-protesters about the statue in the middle of that &#8220;Unite the Right&#8221; rally &#8212; then you stopped being a &#8220;very good person.&#8221; \u00a0You stopped being part of the solution. You became part of the problem.<\/p>\n<p>And you should be called for it. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/2017\/08\/my-life-is-over-21-year-old-charlottesville-marcher-whines-over-outing-by-anti-fascist-group\/\">Like Jerrod Kuhn has been<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Kuhn says he\u2019s not a racist, but that he traveled the nearly 500 miles from Honeoye Falls to Charlottesville to protest the removal of a Confederate monument to Gen. Robert E. Lee from Charlottesville\u2019s Emancipation Park.\u00a0\u201cIt\u2019s a piece of history, and I thought that it should remain,\u201d Kuhn said. \u201cIt\u2019s important to me that we preserve American history no matter how ugly the past is it\u2019s associated with.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m not a neo-Nazi,\u201d he insisted. \u201cI don\u2019t belong to a German workers\u2019 party from 1933. I\u2019m a moderate Republican.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I suspect a lot of moderate Republicans would disagree. Vehemently. And, honestly, he looks\u00a0like an active participant in the hate-fest that was going on Charlottesville.<\/p>\n<p>One of the gravest dangers in outing and doxxing people is mistaken identity. There\u00a0<em>have<\/em> been people inadvertently identified as being folk in photos and videos of Charlottesville, and that&#8217;s a tremendous injustice to them. Just as capital punishment is immoral while there is a chance of an innocent person being targeted, these sorts of tactics require the greatest of due diligence in their application.<\/p>\n<p>But Mr Kuhn doesn&#8217;t dispute he was there, or that those aren&#8217;t videos of him carrying a tiki torch (snort) or dressed up in white nationalist regalia and shouting Nazi slogans. If he were a mere innocent lover of war memorials when he drove all the way from New York, he tossed that aside when he joined up with the gang of idiots. He&#8217;s made his bed, and now he gets to lie in it.<\/p>\n<p>Like down with Nazis, get up with swastikas.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"den66ye2CF\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/2017\/08\/my-life-is-over-21-year-old-charlottesville-marcher-whines-over-outing-by-anti-fascist-group\/\">&#8216;My life is over&#8217;: 21-year-old Charlottesville marcher whines over &#8216;outing&#8217; by anti-fascist group<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/2017\/08\/my-life-is-over-21-year-old-charlottesville-marcher-whines-over-outing-by-anti-fascist-group\/embed\/#?secret=den66ye2CF\" data-secret=\"den66ye2CF\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" title=\"&#8220;&#8216;My life is over&#8217;: 21-year-old Charlottesville marcher whines over &#8216;outing&#8217; by anti-fascist group&#8221; &#8212; Raw Story\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Outing and doxxing people are problematic activities most of the time. As tool used by trolls and harassers of less savory sorts, they&#8217;ve usually been used as an attempt to silence (or open up for targeting) people who get in their way. But, like most tools and processes, a lot of their merit (or discredit) &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/08\/18\/lie-dogs-get-fleas.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":134281,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[358,740],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-134279","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-poor-citizenship","category-race-racism"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Jerrod-Kuhn-via-Eastside-Antifascists-800x4301.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134279","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=134279"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134279\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":134280,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134279\/revisions\/134280"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/134281"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=134279"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=134279"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=134279"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}