{"id":13443,"date":"2008-12-11T21:32:28","date_gmt":"2008-12-12T04:32:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/12\/11\/and-theyll-know-we-are-christians-by-our-love.html"},"modified":"2008-12-11T21:32:28","modified_gmt":"2008-12-12T04:32:28","slug":"and_theyll_know_we_are_ch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/12\/11\/and_theyll_know_we_are_ch.html","title":{"rendered":"And they&#8217;ll know we are Christians by our love"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Why is it that some folks, ostensibly in defense of Christ and their Christian belief, feel compelled to belie both Jesus and his teachings? Take <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/dispatches\/2008\/12\/kentucky_lawsuit_prompts_stupi.php\" target=\"_blank\">these lovely missives<\/a> received by Edwin Kagin, legal director of American Atheists. Mr Kagin recently filed a lawsuit about Kentucky&#8217;s law requiring their homeland security department declare reliance on God in the fight on terrorism.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>From: igotskillz.com [mailto:somedaysomewhere2003@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:59 AM To: edwin@edwinkagin.com Subject:<NO subject=\"\">  <\/NO><\/p>\n<p>You have the right P.O box<\/p>\n<p>I have personally seen God.<\/p>\n<p>You are an arrogant piece of shit.<\/p>\n<p>If it we legal, I would delight in ripping you to pieces.<\/p>\n<p>Have a nice day, shitbag<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nice. I recall Jesus pointing out how the Pharisees were shitbags, and longing for his Father&#8217;s permission to let him rip the Romans into pieces. Was that before the Sermon on the Mount, or after.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>First Name: Chris Last Name: Johnson Email: iamayoungboi@yahoo.com<\/p>\n<p>Comment: I just needed to write and tell you guys GET A LIFE. Actually do something with your time then to ruin everyone else&#8217;s lifer. Lawsuit for god being in homeland secuirty well you<br \/> need god in your life. CAUSE YOUR SO STUPID AND YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME AND EVERYONE ELSES. This is AMERICA, we have the right to be opinionated and freedom of speech. People like you people want to ruin everyone elses life by telling them what they can and can not say. WELL GOD is REAL and you are all a joke. I cant even believe a organization like you evenn exit. Retards. I hope you lose your law suits fags!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And Jesus looked upon those who did not believe in him, and did call them Retards and Fags.&#8221; (Mark 3:47)<\/p>\n<p>Etc. Many more examples abound.<\/p>\n<p>Some people have no clue how much they hurt (and contradict)&nbsp;the cause they claim to believe in. &nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why is it that some folks, ostensibly in defense of Christ and their Christian belief, feel compelled to belie both Jesus and his teachings? 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