{"id":135106,"date":"2017-10-20T08:23:10","date_gmt":"2017-10-20T14:23:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=135106"},"modified":"2017-10-20T10:45:41","modified_gmt":"2017-10-20T16:45:41","slug":"bailout-not-bailout","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/10\/20\/bailout-not-bailout.html","title":{"rendered":"When is a &#8220;bailout&#8221; not a bailout?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s demonstrable that arguing Donald Trump&#8217;s policy proclamations are incoherent at best, dishonest at worse, is a futile gesture, as neither Trump nor his most rabid supporters care.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s still worth noting, just for the record, that the whole &#8220;Obamacare insurance company bailout&#8221; argument both incoherent <i>and<\/i> dishonest, and that&#8217;s Trump&#8217;s proclamations will drive up both insurance premiums <i>and<\/i> the federal deficit. But, hey, it might cause the ACA to &#8220;collapse,&#8221; so it&#8217;s a big win for Trumpism, right?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p><a style=\"display: inline;\" href=\"http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intelligencer\/2017\/10\/no-trump-did-not-cancel-bailouts-for-insurers.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+nymag\/intelligencer+(Daily+Intelligencer+-+New+York+Magazine)&amp;mid=googleplus_nymag\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"max-width: 650px;\" src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/zkmTVzbB-M8iTJwbh-oCOHWTV0yc92xjRztL4RbPhictZtRMmwJqIFH9NRlr1c8vROdG3Jkad4FmJ7bJdXswr8sbJfXJQMTlsCavmo1LJY0PFMPtynfNP60xU6NIkRuhzpm4ScOEWbv9SA=w506-h910\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intelligencer\/2017\/10\/no-trump-did-not-cancel-bailouts-for-insurers.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+nymag\/intelligencer+(Daily+Intelligencer+-+New+York+Magazine)&amp;mid=googleplus_nymag\">No, Trump Did Not Cancel \u2018Bailouts for Insurers\u2019<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/g51j8fMARHe\">View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s demonstrable that arguing Donald Trump&#8217;s policy proclamations are incoherent at best, dishonest at worse, is a futile gesture, as neither Trump nor his most rabid supporters care. But it&#8217;s still worth noting, just for the record, that the whole &#8220;Obamacare insurance company bailout&#8221; argument both incoherent and dishonest, and that&#8217;s Trump&#8217;s proclamations will drive &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/10\/20\/bailout-not-bailout.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;When is a &#8220;bailout&#8221; not a bailout?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":135114,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,77,134,376,1071],"tags":[1171,1270,1077],"class_list":["post-135106","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts","category-economy","category-health-care","category-taxing-spending","category-trump","tag-aca","tag-insurance","tag-trump"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Trump-pbtpbtpbtpbt.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":138418,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2019\/03\/26\/trump-finds-a-new-avenue-of-attack-on-the-aca.html","url_meta":{"origin":135106,"position":0},"title":"Trump finds a new avenue of attack on the ACA","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 26-Mar-19 12:05am","format":false,"excerpt":"He couldn't do it through Congress, and hasn't quite managed it by Executive Order, so ...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Economic Justice&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Economic Justice","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law\/economic-justice"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Donald-Trump-in-front-of-a-flag.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":132133,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/12\/01\/to-provide-fewer-human-services-for-health.html","url_meta":{"origin":135106,"position":1},"title":"To provide fewer Human Services for Health","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 1-Dec-16 7:02am","format":false,"excerpt":"Getting rid of the Affordable Care Act has been the top priority for the GOP since it was passed (heck, probably before that). 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