{"id":135419,"date":"2017-11-26T23:28:05","date_gmt":"2017-11-27T06:28:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=135419"},"modified":"2017-11-27T00:06:38","modified_gmt":"2017-11-27T07:06:38","slug":"apparently-christians-think-humanity-can-define-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/11\/26\/apparently-christians-think-humanity-can-define-god.html","title":{"rendered":"Apparently some Christians think Humanity can define God"},"content":{"rendered":"

The state established Lutheran Church in Sweden has asserted that church language in the future should not use terminology that identifies God as being a particular gender.<\/p>\n

Conservative Christians go nuts over the news.<\/p>\n

To which I say, which is the greater blasphemy?<\/p>\n

A. Taking the language of Scripture, written down by men, framed within highly patriarchal bronze age societies, crafted in periods when only men could define the law and women were considered mere chattel property in birth families or marriage, as the actual definition of reality by God.<\/p>\n

B. Considering God beyond the bounds of earthly gender or societal gender roles.<\/p>\n

I submit that those who choose “A” have something to gain by it. Suggesting that God adheres to anything earthly seems, on the face of it, limiting of the Deity, and therefore blasphemous. And suggesting that anything humans can do would “castrate God” similarly seems to limit the powers of the Deity.<\/p>\n


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