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From NakedJen<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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I mean, that says it all. If we’re going to let the majority vote on who gets a valid marriage and who doesn’t, which group is next?<\/em> I mean, really, why not an interracial marriage ban (pesky US SCOTUS rulings aside)? How about interreligious marriages, or marriages between citizens and furriners? How about marriages between people who cannot have kids? How about doing away with civil marriages and require a church services? And none of those flaky Mormon or idolatrous Catholic services — we want something good and American and Christian like the Baptists do.<\/p>\n

Heck, why disallow marriages by class? We see plenty of bad marriages around us. Why not put all local marriages — each and every individual one, prior to the wedding — up to a vote of the city or county, or maybe just the block, or the families? Why not let those folks decide whether a given marriage is “promising” or “socially productive” or “in keeping with God’s plan”?<\/p>\n

Heck, let’s be thorough about this — no “grandparenting” existing marriages in. Prop. 8 supporters would certainly love to see all those gay marriages of the past several months declared null and void. So let’s have a recall\/referendum on every marriage in the state to see whether it lives up to the goals and description of Traditional Marriage. After all, we can trust the People to decide this, right? And since nothing is more important to our civilization than that Marriage Be Preserved, surely the People won’t mind the inconvenience.<\/p>\n

Of course, some “feelings” might be hurt, some (undeserving) “couples” torn asunder … but we have to remember that the important <\/em>thing is that we preserve some magical ideal of What God Means Religion To Be (2008 James Dobson Edition).<\/em> Anything that doesn’t line up, regardless of the reason, needs to be separated, wheat from chaff, rams from goats. Clearly the best method is through seeking approval of 51% of the voters for each and every case. It’s the only way to be sure.<\/p>\n

Who wants to go first?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

From NakedJen: I mean, that says it all. If we’re going to let the majority vote on who gets a valid marriage and who doesn’t, which group is next? 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