{"id":13558,"date":"2008-11-17T06:58:02","date_gmt":"2008-11-17T13:58:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/11\/17\/those-darned-educated-catholics.html"},"modified":"2008-11-17T06:58:02","modified_gmt":"2008-11-17T13:58:02","slug":"those_darned_educated_cat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/11\/17\/those_darned_educated_cat.html","title":{"rendered":"Those darned educated Catholics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/religion\/3464073\/Educated-Catholics-have-sown-dissent-and-confusion-in-the-Church-claims-bishop.html\" target=\"_blank\">They&#8217;re just bollixing up the entire church for everyone else<\/a>. At least according to a UK Catholic Bishop.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The Rt Rev Patrick O&#8217;Donoghue, the Bishop of Lancaster, has claimed that graduates are spreading scepticism and sowing dissent. Instead of following the Church&#8217;s teaching they are &#8220;hedonistic&#8221;, &#8220;selfish&#8221; and &#8220;egocentric&#8221;, he said.<\/p>\n<p>In particular, the bishop complained that influential Catholics in politics and the media were undermining the Church. While not naming names, he suggested that such people had been compromised by their education, which he said had a &#8220;dark side, due to original sin&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>How does that work?&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Bishop O&#8217;Donoghue, who has recently published a report on how to renew Catholicism in Britain, argued that mass education has led to &#8220;sickness in the Church and wider society&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What we have witnessed in Western societies since the end of the Second World War is the development of mass education on a scale unprecedented in human history &#8211; resulting in economic growth, scientific and technological advances, and the cultural and social enrichment of billions of people&#8217;s lives,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;However, every human endeavor has a dark side, due to original sin and concupiscence. In the case of education, we can see its distortion through the widespread dissemination of radical scepticism, positivism, utilitarianism and relativism.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Taken together, these intellectual trends have resulted in a fragmented society that marginalizes God, with many people mistakenly thinking they can live happy and productive lives without him.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The peasantry was much easier to control before they were taught to read, don&#8217;tcha know.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>They&#8217;re just bollixing up the entire church for everyone else. At least according to a UK Catholic Bishop. 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