{"id":135635,"date":"2017-12-13T07:15:09","date_gmt":"2017-12-13T14:15:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=135635"},"modified":"2017-12-13T12:50:24","modified_gmt":"2017-12-13T19:50:24","slug":"guess-theocrat-easier-dont-understand-constitution","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/12\/13\/guess-theocrat-easier-dont-understand-constitution.html","title":{"rendered":"I guess being a theocrat is easier when you don&#8217;t understand the Constitution"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The video here from an interview with Roy Moore spokesperson Ted Crockett is &#8230; both hysterical and deeply depressing. When asked why a Muslim shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to serve in Congress (as Moore has argued), Crockett notes that a good Muslim could not swear on the Bible, as someone is required to do to get into office.<\/p>\n<p>And when Jake Tapper notes that, no, the Constitution does <i>not<\/i> require swearing in on a Bible, just taking an <i>oath or affirmation<\/i> however one can solemnly do so, Crockett sits there for several seconds, silent, until he argues that both he (as a previous elected official) and Donald Trump swore on a Bible, so clearly that&#8217;s the requirement.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s funny, but it&#8217;s also illustrative. It&#8217;s ignorance in action. It&#8217;s &#8220;well, everyone I know is that way, so that&#8217;s not only the normal way, it&#8217;s the <i>only<\/i> way.&#8221; It&#8217;s the sort of thing I would expect from a Moore supporter &#8230; and, sadly, too many other people.<\/p>\n<p>For the record, here is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.senate.gov\/artandhistory\/history\/common\/briefing\/Oath_Office.htm\">the oath of office for the US Senate<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><i>I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.<\/i> [1]<\/p>\n<p>While <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/constitution\/articleii#section1\">the US Constitution gives the text for the President&#8217;s oath<\/a>, it only says that other federal officials &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/constitution\/articlevi\">shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support this constitution<\/a>.&#8221;\u00a0 The original US Congress set as the oath &#8220;I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States,&#8221; but in the Civil War era the rules were changed to expand the oath text to weed out Southern sympathizers. The current wording is defined in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/uscode\/text\/5\/3331\">the US legal code<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>None of this says anything about the Christian Bible, or being a Christian, or anything about the belief system of the person so swearing. Indeed, no holy book is required, as an office holder may simply &#8220;affirm&#8221; their vow (some Christians, for example, believe that swearing an oath is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Matthew+5%3A33-37&amp;version=ESV\">actually<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=James+5%3A12&amp;version=ESV\">sinful<\/a>). And it&#8217;s worth noting that Theodore Roosevelt did not use a Bible in 1901 when taking the oath, and both John Quincy Adams and Franklin Pierce swore on a book of law (as they were swearing on the Constitution).[23]<\/p>\n<p>But apparently some people who seem to fetishize the US Constitution to use as a tool against others have no idea what it actually says.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>[1] When given as an affirmation, rather than an oath, the phrase &#8220;so help me God&#8221; can be omitted, e.g., <a href=\"http:\/\/memory.loc.gov\/cgi-bin\/ampage?collId=llsl&amp;fileName=001\/llsl001.db&amp;recNum=199\">court officials<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p><a style=\"display: inline;\" href=\"http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/livewire\/moore-campaign-spokesman-silent-when-told-bible-not-necessary-for-swearing-in\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"max-width: 650px;\" src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/aLNbr4zy_67qt1KYgNDtxChqxMJzD1wEqJeh4escjFNwkeEepgMSYUmRWIZhW0WxbuooBzrb6iXsYfOsfPoILrQU9MjxitawdFYXcaIRpPkJLyo85ls1zaa7dduLjZezuQ1hD_2W1RO3Pli0yKDz6p1CpSKVxA=w506-h910\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/livewire\/moore-campaign-spokesman-silent-when-told-bible-not-necessary-for-swearing-in\">Moore Spox Falls Silent When Told Bible Isn&#8217;t Required For Oaths Of Office<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nA spokesman for Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore\u2019s campaign on Tuesday appeared dumbfounded when asked whether he knew that&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/5jjTubAn4nY\">View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The video here from an interview with Roy Moore spokesperson Ted Crockett is &#8230; both hysterical and deeply depressing. When asked why a Muslim shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to serve in Congress (as Moore has argued), Crockett notes that a good Muslim could not swear on the Bible, as someone is required to do to get &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/12\/13\/guess-theocrat-easier-dont-understand-constitution.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;I guess being a theocrat is easier when you don&#8217;t understand the Constitution&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":135644,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,109,358,378,110],"tags":[1228,1364,1363,1365],"class_list":["post-135635","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts","category-church-state","category-poor-citizenship","category-intolerance-persecution","category-religious-zanies","tag-constitution","tag-oath","tag-section1","tag-theocracy"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/unnamed-4.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":10553,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/12\/23\/but_some_constitutional_p.html","url_meta":{"origin":135635,"position":0},"title":"But some Constitutional provisions are more equal than others","author":"***Dave","date":"Sat 23-Dec-06 12:34am","format":false,"excerpt":"The Constitution indicates that there should be no religious test for holding of government office. 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