{"id":135656,"date":"2017-12-14T10:50:12","date_gmt":"2017-12-14T17:50:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=135656"},"modified":"2017-12-15T00:42:43","modified_gmt":"2017-12-15T07:42:43","slug":"marvel-universes-collide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/12\/14\/marvel-universes-collide.html","title":{"rendered":"When Marvel Universes Collide!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This article gets a little breathlessly geeky in places, but there&#8217;s no doubt that the folk running Marvel Pictures right now are salivating over finally getting their hands on the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises &#8212; heroes and villains alike.<\/p>\n<p>If they follow their pattern, we&#8217;ll see stand-alone films there before any serious integration with the rest of the MCU, though cameos are possible, a la Spider-Man in <i>Civil War.<\/i> And that&#8217;s fine &#8212; fitting them into phase 4 and phase 5 is going to be tricky enough without moving too fast.<\/p>\n<p>This also gives Marvel\/Disney some greater flexibility with their original core heroes aging out or retiring from their roles. &#8220;What the heck do we do with the Avengers if Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and Hulk are all gone?&#8221; is a little less urgent a question when there are these additional characters to play with.<\/p>\n<p>For me, what I&#8217;m most looking forward to is Ike Perlmutter and Marvel Comics deciding it&#8217;s okay to have a <i>Fantastic Four<\/i> comic book again. The FF&#8217;s substantive absence from the Marvel Universe has been unusually refreshing in some ways, but knowing it was driven by Perlmutter not wanting to promote characters showing up in Fox movies was particularly maddening. Those days should be drawing to a close soon.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p><a style=\"display: inline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.vulture.com\/2017\/12\/x-men-avengers-fantastic-four-disney-fox-merger.html\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"max-width: 650px;\" src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/8fNePpkpv7taqNARYErww-o-O2YKxt5gjvKbtmadfC167Xq4qHcTPFQ23v_AR_CBdP5TVEOC_Dkp5ylaB62WmP9ZwEvlCJqPmfnBoO-T9YhKNAbvR2zIAgJpbfS4iDQ16jzDTfhn=w506-h910\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vulture.com\/2017\/12\/x-men-avengers-fantastic-four-disney-fox-merger.html\">The X-Men, the Avengers, the Merger, and What It\u2019ll Mean<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/dXcd4BZNRm5\">View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This article gets a little breathlessly geeky in places, but there&#8217;s no doubt that the folk running Marvel Pictures right now are salivating over finally getting their hands on the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises &#8212; heroes and villains alike. If they follow their pattern, we&#8217;ll see stand-alone films there before any serious integration with &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/12\/14\/marvel-universes-collide.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;When Marvel Universes Collide!&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":135666,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,35,11,79,525,28,41],"tags":[1234],"class_list":["post-135656","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts","category-big-business","category-media-comics","category-media-intellectual-property","category-marvel-cinematic-universe","category-media-moguls","category-media-movies","tag-mcu"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/iron-man-wolverine.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":138227,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2019\/03\/11\/captain-marvel-does-boffo-box-office.html","url_meta":{"origin":135656,"position":0},"title":"&#8220;Captain Marvel&#8221; does boffo box office","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 11-Mar-19 7:21pm","format":false,"excerpt":"While I had my own minor issues with the movie, I'm delighted to see it's doing even better than the studio had predicted. 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Brie Larson (along with everyone else) is likeable and strong and interesting,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/media\/franchises\/marvel-cinematic-universe"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Captain-Marvel-movie-poster.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Captain-Marvel-movie-poster.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Captain-Marvel-movie-poster.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Captain-Marvel-movie-poster.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Captain-Marvel-movie-poster.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Captain-Marvel-movie-poster.jpg?resize=1400%2C800&ssl=1 4x"},"classes":[]},{"id":46092,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/10\/28\/the-marvel-cinematic-universe-strikes-back.html","url_meta":{"origin":135656,"position":3},"title":"The Marvel Cinematic Universe Strikes Back","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 28-Oct-14 2:39pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Following up on DC's recent fleshing out of their slate of films, Marvel has further detailed their coming entries, adding both some new heroes to the MCU as well as giving titles for some of the sequels.2015- Avengers: Age of Ultron- Ant-Man2016- Captain America: Civil War- Doctor Strange2017- Guardians of\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":136909,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/09\/05\/waiting-for-captain-marvel-2019.html","url_meta":{"origin":135656,"position":4},"title":"Waiting for &#8220;Captain Marvel&#8221; (2019)","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 5-Sep-18 2:04pm","format":false,"excerpt":"(And, just to be clear, I'm talking about the Marvel movie by that name, not the Shazam movie coming from DC, starring a character who used to be called \"Captain Marvel\" but now is called \"Shazam.\" Got it? 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