{"id":135716,"date":"2017-12-19T07:17:42","date_gmt":"2017-12-19T14:17:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=135716"},"modified":"2017-12-21T23:24:32","modified_gmt":"2017-12-22T06:24:32","slug":"identity-politics-around-macedonia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/12\/19\/identity-politics-around-macedonia.html","title":{"rendered":"The Identity Politics around Macedonia"},"content":{"rendered":"

I recall this debate back in the post-Yugoslavia break-up days, but had no idea it was still festering. It all boils down to the question of who “owns” a national name, how such names can (or cannot) be duplicated, how fluid borders and history scramble such discussions, and why ethnic nationalism always makes things more difficult than they should be.<\/p>\n

In short: the Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) has had efforts to actually call themselves Macedonia continuously blocked in the international and European communities by Greek nationalists who say that name belongs to Greeks, as reflected in their own (neighboring) district called Macedonia. That many (though by no means all) of these folk in FYROM are ethnically Slavic makes this stickier; that folk in FYROM believe the name and cultural heritage belongs to them,<\/i> and won’t hear about changing it, makes this even stickier.<\/p>\n


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\nWhy Macedonia still has a second name – The Economist explains<\/a><\/span>
\nMacedonia gained independence over 25 years ago. Its name has still not been resolved<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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I recall this debate back in the post-Yugoslavia break-up days, but had no idea it was still festering. It all boils down to the question of who “owns” a national name, how such names can (or cannot) be duplicated, how fluid borders and history scramble such discussions, and why ethnic nationalism always makes things more … Continue reading “The Identity Politics around Macedonia”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":135723,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,10,108,380,740,24,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-135716","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts","category-geopolitical-brouhaha","category-history","category-nationalism-exceptionalism","category-race-racism","category-writing-and-language","category-zt-pc"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/unnamed-39.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":137069,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/09\/06\/whats-that-country-all-about.html","url_meta":{"origin":135716,"position":0},"title":"What’s that country all about?","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 6-Sep-18 10:45pm","format":false,"excerpt":"A fun world map with the most common word on their English Wikipedia page assigned to it. 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