{"id":13588,"date":"2008-11-07T21:17:26","date_gmt":"2008-11-08T04:17:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/11\/07\/tit-for-tat.html"},"modified":"2008-11-07T21:17:26","modified_gmt":"2008-11-08T04:17:26","slug":"tit_for_tat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/11\/07\/tit_for_tat.html","title":{"rendered":"Tit for Tat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After Colorado passed Amendment 2 (I think it was) a while back, a lot of folks found the state-approved homophobia so off-putting that Colorado ended up losing a lot of tourist dollars due to organizations and individuals canceling conferences and tourism packages here.<\/p>\n<p>While <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boulderdude.com\/2008\/11\/it_is_time_for_the_passing.html\" target=\"_blank\">some have suggested<\/a> that something similar might happen to California, I doubt it &#8212; the state is simply too big and important to be shunned. There were other places besides Colorado to go skiing &#8212; Utah, for example &#8212; while there are too many aspects of California that simply cannot be bypassed. Not to say that the state might not <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/todd-palmer-and-rob-pringle\/proposition-8-defeats-cal_b_141941.html\" target=\"_blank\">suffer for its majority decision<\/a>, but it won&#8217;t be through boycotts.<\/p>\n<p>Utah, on the other hand, is home to the LDS Church, which <a href=\"http:\/\/latimesblogs.latimes.com\/lanow\/2008\/10\/now-the-mormon.html\" target=\"_blank\">coordinated plowing massive amounts of its followers time and money&nbsp;toward Proposition 8&#8217;s passage<\/a>. Up to 80% of the money raised for Prop 8 came from Mormons, and while California has a sizeable Mormon population, a lot of that came from Utah.<\/p>\n<p>So now Utah might find that there are other places for tourists to go for skiing &#8212; Colorado, for example. More importantly, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/mario-ruiz\/gays-hit-back-at-mormons_b_142001.html\" target=\"_blank\">some folks are arguing<\/a> that the active role that the LDS Church took in the Amendment 8 battle <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mormonsstoleourrights.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">might well have violated their IRS standing as a tax-exempt institution<\/a>. That seems a <em>bit <\/em>out there at the moment &#8212; but it will be interesting to see how the argument progresses.<\/p>\n<p>One thing for certain: I expect there&nbsp;will&nbsp;be unexpected repercussions of the vote.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After Colorado passed Amendment 2 (I think it was) a while back, a lot of folks found the state-approved homophobia so off-putting that Colorado ended up losing a lot of&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[54,25,27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13588","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elections-2008","category-gay-stuff","category-religion"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8947,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/03\/17\/twelve_years_la.html","url_meta":{"origin":13588,"position":0},"title":"Twelve years later &#8230;","author":"***Dave","date":"Fri 17-Mar-06 2:49pm","format":false,"excerpt":"A year or two before I moved to Colorado, California bit the bullet and banned most indoor smoking, including in bars and restaurants. It was something that was very quick...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Health&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Health","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/health"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":31252,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/11\/06\/going-to-pot-in-colorado.html","url_meta":{"origin":13588,"position":1},"title":"Going to Pot in Colorado","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 6-Nov-12 9:38pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Well. This should be interesting.Plus, hemp production.I foresee some interesting butting heads with the Feds, and lots of role reversals over how federalism is supposed to work.Reshared post from +The Denver PostUPDATE: An amendment that would make it legal in Colorado for individuals to possess and for businesses to sell\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":30020,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/08\/29\/colorado-personhood-comes-up-short-for-the-november-ballot.html","url_meta":{"origin":13588,"position":2},"title":"Colorado Personhood comes up short for the November ballot","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 29-Aug-12 1:15pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Have to say I'm pleased by this, both because it means we won't have this on the ballot yet again (plus the finite chance that it could have passed), and because it indicates there's not enough support out there for them to have made it happen.I do expect a nasty\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":9880,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2006\/10\/16\/the_shift_in_gay_marriage.html","url_meta":{"origin":13588,"position":3},"title":"The shift in gay marriage bans","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 16-Oct-06 10:38am","format":false,"excerpt":"In 2004, thirteen states passed constitutional amendments declaring marriage as being one-man+one-woman. Still more similar bans are on the ballot this year (in Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, South Dakota,...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Elections 2006&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Elections 2006","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law\/elections-2006"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":137974,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2019\/02\/26\/a-particular-welcome-to-colorado.html","url_meta":{"origin":13588,"position":4},"title":"A particular welcome to Colorado","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 26-Feb-19 8:01pm","format":false,"excerpt":"There's a new billboard along I-70 near the Utah-Colorado border. The billboard was paid for by ProgressNow Colorado as part of their Keep Abortion Safe project, and is addressed to the not-insubstantial number of Utah women crossing the state border for abortion services that are not readily available in their\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Church &amp; State&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Church &amp; State","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/politics-law\/church-state"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/colorado-abortion-billboard.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/colorado-abortion-billboard.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/colorado-abortion-billboard.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/colorado-abortion-billboard.jpg?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/colorado-abortion-billboard.jpg?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/colorado-abortion-billboard.jpg?resize=1400%2C800&ssl=1 4x"},"classes":[]},{"id":31259,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/11\/07\/and-in-local-colorado-electoral-news.html","url_meta":{"origin":13588,"position":5},"title":"And in local Colorado electoral news","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 7-Nov-12 7:29am","format":false,"excerpt":"Besides voting overall for Obama, here's what else went on last night in Colorado (of interest to me, at least): 1. It appears Mike Coffman has clearly beat Joe Miklosi to return to Washington in CO-6. \u00a0A shame, but on the bright side Coffman has been a proponent of defense\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13588","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13588"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13588\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13588"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13588"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13588"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}