{"id":13638,"date":"2008-11-02T18:52:59","date_gmt":"2008-11-03T01:52:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/11\/02\/the-human-face-of-deciding-about-gay-marraige.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:16:13","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:16:13","slug":"the_human_face_of_decidin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/11\/02\/the_human_face_of_decidin.html","title":{"rendered":"The human face of deciding about gay marraige"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jerry Sanders, Republican Mayor of San Diego&nbsp;backed off from a pledge to veto the city council&#8217;s support for gay marriage. He&nbsp;did so in an announcement that&#8217;s fascinating, poignant, and moving &#8212; and well worth watching.<\/p>\n<p>(Note: Though this is just making the rounds (again) now, it&#8217;s actually about a year old, September 2007. It&#8217;s still worth watching.)<\/p>\n<p><object height=\"344\" width=\"425\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/0rfea8iEGNw&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0xcc2550&amp;color2=0xe87a9f\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><\/object>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;I have close family members and friends who are a member of the gay and lesbian community. Those folks include my daughter Lisa, as well as members of my personal staff.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I want for them the same thing that we all want for our loved ones\u2014for each of them to find a mate whom they love deeply and who loves them back; someone with whom they can grow old together and share life\u2019s experiences.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And I want their relationships to be protected equally under the law. In the end, I couldn\u2019t look any of them in the face and tell them that their relationship\u2014their very lives\u2014were any less meaningful than the marriage I share with my wife Rana.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I do believe the greatest fear that proponents of California&#8217;s Proposition 8 &#8212; and opponents of gay marriage &#8212; is that the normalization of gay marriage will make it clear that the vast majority of gays who wish to marry are not the debauched extremists of some of the more outr\u00e9 Gay Pride parades out there (any more than most straights model their behavior off of Mardi Gras in New Orleans). Instead, they are &#8220;normal&#8221; people, people we know and love and respect. That weakens (whether it should or not) the moral argument that homosexuality is sinful and against (as they see it) God&#8217;s will. They are correct in their concern that if Amendment 8 doesn&#8217;t pass, gay marriage will be entrenched in Californian, and (joined with other states) American, culture as part of the mainstream. Their arguments from the Bible being inadequate to sway the populace, they can only militate for Prop 8, then, based on fear-mongering and catastrophism.<\/p>\n<p>Kudos to Mr. Sanders (even a little late).<\/p>\n<p><small><\/p>\n<p>(via Ginny and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/storyonly\/2008\/11\/2\/84051\/4140\/170\/649703\" target=\"_blank\">Kos<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jerry Sanders, Republican Mayor of San Diego&nbsp;backed off from a pledge to veto the city council&#8217;s support for gay marriage. 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