{"id":136408,"date":"2018-05-11T11:25:47","date_gmt":"2018-05-11T17:25:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=136408"},"modified":"2018-05-14T16:53:44","modified_gmt":"2018-05-14T22:53:44","slug":"since-we-seem-to-be-having-the-torture-debate-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/11\/since-we-seem-to-be-having-the-torture-debate-again.html","title":{"rendered":"Since we seem to be having the torture debate AGAIN"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Guess I need to post <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/libyaliberty\/status\/542695490278551553\">this<\/a> AGAIN.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/photos\/101083456815352083930\/albums\/6554375843532121537\/6554375844822046002\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"max-width: 650px;\" src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-Hfw7rmkqj7k\/WvXSGrME1TI\/AAAAAAAE-3E\/GqjXmCueuzMOS88G8CmxuPoW0aPbxG3MgCJoC\/torture%2Bworks.PNG?imgmax=660\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/3bWC2Z6QapL\">View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Guess I need to post this AGAIN. &nbsp; View on Google+<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":136409,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,715,17,358,1071],"tags":[1584,1585,777],"class_list":["post-136408","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts","category-crime-punishment","category-homeland-security","category-poor-citizenship","category-trump","tag-cia","tag-haspel","tag-torture"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/torture+works.PNGimgmax=660.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":131873,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/10\/24\/the-president-cant-declare-torture-legal.html","url_meta":{"origin":136408,"position":0},"title":"The President can&#039;t declare torture legal","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 24-Oct-16 9:30pm","format":false,"excerpt":"That should actually be a relief to everyone, even if they're really scared of Evil Muslim Terrorists. 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Well, apparently it is for one GOP Senator. #ddtb Embedded Link Republican Senator Proposes Torture Amendment To Defense Bill","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":129664,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/02\/07\/because-torture-is-cool-now.html","url_meta":{"origin":136408,"position":4},"title":"Because torture is cool now","author":"***Dave","date":"Sun 7-Feb-16 8:53pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Not sure which answer was the worst:1. Trump: Waterboarding is so wimpy, I'd really torture their asses.2. Cruz: No, no, waterboarding is not torture. But we won't do it under my watch. Much.3. 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