{"id":136495,"date":"2018-05-19T22:59:11","date_gmt":"2018-05-20T04:59:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=136495"},"modified":"2018-05-26T18:02:44","modified_gmt":"2018-05-27T00:02:44","slug":"on-guns-and-responsibility","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/19\/on-guns-and-responsibility.html","title":{"rendered":"On guns and responsibility"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jim Wright, once again, nails the matter on the head.\u00a0If you own a device designed to kill, then you are responsible for making sure that doesn&#8217;t happen. (Heck, we have a legal framework of responsibility at that level for devices we own that <i>aren&#8217;t<\/i> designed to kill.)<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s not a final, ultimate solution for gun violence, but, as Wright points out, drunk driving laws aren&#8217;t a final, ultimate solution for DUI fatalities &#8212; but nobody suggests that <i>they<\/i> are useless or should be abolished.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p><a style=\"display: inline;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stonekettle.com\/2018\/05\/bang-bang-crazy-part-14-cowardice-of.html?m=1\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"max-width: 650px;\" src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-oayYNxb2qC0\/WwCeOUVKOfI\/AAAAAAAAJE0\/YQ6-tEpNkj8X0tiWSSEzfwt-nhrNy_TRACHMYCw\/w120-h120\/image_thumb%255B1%255D?imgmax=800\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: large;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stonekettle.com\/2018\/05\/bang-bang-crazy-part-14-cowardice-of.html?m=1\">Bang Bang Crazy, Part 14: The Cowardice of Responsibility<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/HPoZ9UdUnSr\">View on Google+<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jim Wright, once again, nails the matter on the head.\u00a0If you own a device designed to kill, then you are responsible for making sure that doesn&#8217;t happen. (Heck, we have a legal framework of responsibility at that level for devices we own that aren&#8217;t designed to kill.) That&#8217;s not a final, ultimate solution for gun &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/05\/19\/on-guns-and-responsibility.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;On guns and responsibility&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":136497,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,298,385],"tags":[1197],"class_list":["post-136495","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-plusposts","category-guns","category-safety","tag-guns"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/america+bullets+guns.jpgimgmax=660.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":130427,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2016\/04\/14\/bang-bang-crazy.html","url_meta":{"origin":136495,"position":0},"title":"Bang Bang Crazy","author":"***Dave","date":"Thu 14-Apr-16 11:52pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Jim Wright does great long-form blog entries at Stonekettle Station. Here he (once again) dives into the depths of pro-gun fervency, Twitter-style, and gets a predictable series of NRA talking points, ad hominem attacks, and other logical fallacies. It's fun reading, if you've taken your blood pressure medication. 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We see this all the time -- the domestic dispute that gets out of hand, the suicidal impulse that has an effective solution in reach, the cop who feels endangered,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/unnamed-1.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":134800,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/09\/20\/world-needs-american-guns.html","url_meta":{"origin":136495,"position":4},"title":"Because the world NEEDS more American guns","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 20-Sep-17 6:54pm","format":false,"excerpt":"American gun manufacturers are in trouble. Ironically, with the departure of Barack Obama from the White House, the gun-buying frenzy whipped up by the NRA and its allies (\"He's coming to take your guns! He's coming to shut down gun stores! Buy all you can NOW!\") has subsided, leading to\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/guns-and-flag.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":42235,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2014\/05\/27\/the-mythology-of-guns.html","url_meta":{"origin":136495,"position":5},"title":"The Mythology of Guns","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 27-May-14 11:19pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Sometimes it seems that a lot of the pro-gun arguments in this nation are a combination of what folks have seen in TV\/movies and gun-manufacturer-backed propaganda.For example, there's this idea that, \"Well, if I had a gun and was there, I'd keep that Bad Thing from happening.\" \u00a0When in reality\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136495","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=136495"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136495\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":136562,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136495\/revisions\/136562"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/136497"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=136495"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=136495"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=136495"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}