{"id":13655,"date":"2008-10-31T12:22:17","date_gmt":"2008-10-31T19:22:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/10\/31\/mawwiage.html"},"modified":"2014-11-05T15:16:16","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T22:16:16","slug":"mawwiage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/10\/31\/mawwiage.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Mawwiage &#8230;&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"img-shadow-left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Peter Cook as the Impressive Clergyman in The Princess Bride\" height=\"264\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/images\/mawwiage.jpg\" width=\"216\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.boulderdude.com\/2008\/10\/a_meme_i_can_believe_in.html\" target=\"_blank\">BD passes along this meme<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Copy this sentence into your Livejournal\/Blog if you&#8217;re in a heterosexual marriage, and you don&#8217;t want it &#8220;protected&#8221; by the bigots who think that gay marriage hurts it somehow.<\/p>\n<p><em>Any two or more people who choose to enter into the bonds of a loving, committed relationship in an open, public manner will only make us smile and strengthen our own bond.<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>*raises a glass to everyone who&#8217;s married, whether legally or in their hearts and the eyes of their god(s), everyone who&#8217;s getting married, everyone who&#8217;d like to get married in a legally recognized fashion, but can&#8217;t because of silly laws&#8211;and, for that matter, everyone who&#8217;s self-aware enough to look at themselves and realize that such commitments aren&#8217;t right for them at this time or who doesn&#8217;t feel the need to be so public about it&#8211;just because it works for us doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s going to work for everyone*<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Okay: <em>Any two or more people who choose to enter into the bonds of a loving, committed relationship in an open, public manner will only make us smile and strengthen our own bond.<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Now, not being willing to leave well enough alone, I&#8217;ll note some caveats and observations:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li> &#8220;Loving, committed relationship&#8221; obviously excludes age-inappropriate marriages (not to mention a number of other bugaboos of the Right when it comes to same-sex marriage questions). What&#8217;s appropriate or inappropriate has, of course, varied wildly over the centuries, despite the&nbsp;cry of &#8220;eternal standards of traditional marriage&#8221; from the&nbsp;social conservatives. There&#8217;s times I&#8217;m tempted to suggest the age of consent for marriage should be raised to thirty &#8230; but that&#8217;s a topic for another day.<\/li>\n<li> &#8220;Two or more people&#8221; obviously includes polygamy, which is usually one of those slippery slope sorts of arguments again advanced by the Right. Again, a topic for another day, but practical considerations and difficulties&nbsp;for long-term stability aside, it&#8217;s no skin off my nose; such relations have every likelihood of being as true or truer to the spirit of marriage as some binary man-woman relationships we can point to on a daily basis. That said, current gay marriage struggles are not about polygamy; address that issue when it actually comes up.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>The point of this, of course, is that what two other people choose to call their marriage doesn&#8217;t necessarily affect mine. And happy couples tend to spread happiness. So leave &#8217;em the heck alone, all you Prop. 8 agitators out in California. Concentrate your energies on keeping your own marriages happy and healthy, and you&#8217;ll probably do more good for yourselves <em>and <\/em>society than you do trying to keep other folks from having happy marriages.<\/p>\n<p><em>Mawwiage. Mawwiage is what bwings us togethaw today. Mawwiage, that bwessed awwangement, that dweam within a dweam&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BD passes along this meme: Copy this sentence into your Livejournal\/Blog if you&#8217;re in a heterosexual marriage, and you don&#8217;t want it &#8220;protected&#8221; by the bigots who think that gay&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[25,14,718],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13655","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gay-stuff","category-love-and-marriage","category-marriage-equality"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":12736,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/10\/07\/a_marital_compromise.html","url_meta":{"origin":13655,"position":0},"title":"A marital compromise","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 7-Oct-08 5:42pm","format":false,"excerpt":"You may recall a few weeks back a (heterosexual) couple in California were pitching a fit over new marriage license forms from the state that identified the couple on the...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;LGBTQ &amp;c&quot;","block_context":{"text":"LGBTQ &amp;c","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/gay-stuff"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":13450,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/12\/09\/the_sanctity_of_marriage.html","url_meta":{"origin":13655,"position":1},"title":"The Sanctity of Marriage","author":"***Dave","date":"Tue 9-Dec-08 10:41am","format":false,"excerpt":"Commenting on a case where a husband and wife have been arrested for\u00a0kidnapping and torture\u00a0of a runaway child, Dan Savage notes: Kelly and Michael Schumacher are legally married--and they can...","rel":"","context":"In &quot;LGBTQ &amp;c&quot;","block_context":{"text":"LGBTQ &amp;c","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/gay-stuff"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":37892,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2013\/06\/26\/scotus-and-doma-and-prop-8-oh-my.html","url_meta":{"origin":13655,"position":2},"title":"SCOTUS and DoMA and Prop 8 (Oh, My!)","author":"***Dave","date":"Wed 26-Jun-13 2:05pm","format":false,"excerpt":"I have a lot to say about this (beyond the lengthy rewtweeting), and will say it anon ... but for the moment, let me just say that I am overall pleased with both rulings, and gobsmacked \/ wildly amused by the IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;~PlusPosts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"~PlusPosts","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/category\/blogging\/plusposts"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":30437,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2012\/10\/01\/richard-land-is-a-dolt-immodestly-modest-edition.html","url_meta":{"origin":13655,"position":3},"title":"Richard Land is a Dolt (Immodestly Modest Edition)","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 1-Oct-12 10:44pm","format":false,"excerpt":"Richard Land\u00a0the president of\u00a0The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the\u00a0Southern Baptist Convention. \u00a0Not surprisingly, he has some traditionally conservative viewpoints on marriage, which he's lately put together in a \"modest proposal\" of disingenuity and prejudice at the Christian Post (which he is, not coincidentally, the Executive Editor): \u00a0What Relationships\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Church &amp; 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