{"id":13669,"date":"2008-10-28T23:02:25","date_gmt":"2008-10-29T06:02:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/wp\/2008\/10\/28\/guess-im-going-to-hell-then.html"},"modified":"2008-10-28T23:02:25","modified_gmt":"2008-10-29T06:02:25","slug":"guess_im_going_to_hell_th","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2008\/10\/28\/guess_im_going_to_hell_th.html","title":{"rendered":"Guess I’m going to Hell, then"},"content":{"rendered":"

Of course, Jesus suggested that we judge not, lest we be judged. He also indicated more than once that second-guessing someone else’s relationship with God was, um, ill-advised.<\/p>\n

Nonetheless, some folks on the Religious Right show no qualms about predicting who’s casting a one-way vote for the Fiery Furnace<\/a>. Like Jane Porter:<\/p>\n

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To all those who name the name of Christ who plan to willfully disobey Him by voting for Obama, take warning. Not only is our nation in grave danger, according to the Word of God, so are you<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Wow. I’ve read the New Testament through several times, and I can’t say I remember a warning that God calls on us to vote against Obama.<\/p>\n

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In one week, America will make a choice. And to those who call themselves “Christian” who are planning on voting for Barack Obama, put down the Obama talking points and read God’s voter guide before you go to the polls.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Wait — I know that voting guide. It talks about loving neighbors, feeding the poor, clothing the naked, visiting the prisoner, supporting the widows and orphans. Wait — is that the wrong guide?<\/p>\n

Ah, I do love the ol’ “I know who’s a real ‘Christian’ and who’s not” routine. It usually ends up being associated with stonings and witch burnings.<\/p>\n

The particular theological <\/em>gist of the article is that (a) Obama is not anti-abortion (thus a vote for him, no matter what the reason, is a vote for baby-killing (which, in terms of abortion, is apparently worse than children being killed by bears<\/a> or righteous warriors<\/a> sent by God), (b) Obama isn’t rabidly anti-gay (as everyone knows God is), and (c) Obama is a socialist (it’s never quite clear how this ties into the Bible, especially given Jesus’ message about giving to the poor, but I’m sure my interpretation is faulty because I am, after all, voting for Obama). Thus, Obama is inutterably anti-Biblical, anti-God, and anyone who casts a vote for him ought just as well carve the Mark of the Beast (a backwards “B”) on their cheek and get ready for some Chick tract afterworld retribution on their behind.<\/p>\n

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Obey Him in the voting booth and out of it. If not, do us all a favor and quit calling yourself a Christian.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

And some Christians wonder why religious affiliation is flat or declining.<\/p>\n

UPDATE: Of course, if you want the above to look relatively calm, considered, and sane, check this<\/a> out by contrast.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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