{"id":136853,"date":"2018-06-29T08:42:28","date_gmt":"2018-06-29T14:42:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/?p=136853"},"modified":"2018-09-05T18:48:39","modified_gmt":"2018-09-06T00:48:39","slug":"trumps-immigration-debacle-is-still-a-debacle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/06\/29\/trumps-immigration-debacle-is-still-a-debacle.html","title":{"rendered":"Trump&#8217;s Immigration Debacle is &#8230; still a debacle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Oh, he&#39;s backed off everything, hooray, on to other news!&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Not quite. Because not only was his backing-off full of weasel-words, and reliant largely on the good graces of ICE and CBP, but there remain the over 2000 kids already separated from their families, and that&#39;s continuing to be a horrible, destructive mess.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Oh, but a judge has told them to fix the problem, hooray, on to other news!&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, except you <i>know<\/i> it&#39;s not going to be that simple, because the agencies involved <i>will<\/i> appeal that order (and, hell, given how SCOTUS is headed, in the three-odd years it takes to go through the appeals cycles, they&#39;ll probably strike it down, deferring to the executive branch to handle &quot;national security&quot; issues as they see fit).<\/p>\n<p>And in the <i>meantime<\/i> &#8230; we get stories like the one below[1], where &quot;unaccompanied&quot; (because they were torn from their parents) <i>toddlers<\/i> are being brought into court for immigration hearings. Yes, they&#39;re being represented, but they can&#39;t articulate why they&#39;re here, why an asylum request is warranted, or even where the heck their parents are or what their names are. And how can they possibly be turned over to &quot;someone&quot; or deported &quot;somewhere&quot; without connecting with proper, associated adults, which is tough &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; when you don&#39;t have paperwork demonstrating who these kids are.<\/p>\n<p>And the parents, on the other hand, even if released from custody &#8212; deported, or let go within this country &#8212; and even if they somehow manage to track down these kids, are suddenly finding that they can&#39;t even prove the kids are theirs [2]. Because <i>even if<\/i> they had birth certificates and the like with them when they crossed the border, those documents were all confiscated upon arrest, and are <i>not returned<\/i> when the parents are released. In fact, it appears that they are destroyed, &quot;not retained&quot;.<\/p>\n<p>It&#39;s difficult to imagine an arrangement designed so poorly that <i>wasn&#39;t<\/i> done so by intent, even if by intentional neglect.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>[1] <a href=\"https:\/\/www.texastribune.org\/2018\/06\/27\/immigrant-toddlers-ordered-appear-court-alone\/\" class=\"ot-anchor\">https:\/\/www.texastribune.org\/2018\/06\/27\/immigrant-toddlers-ordered-appear-court-alone\/<\/a><br \/>[2] <a href=\"https:\/\/www.texastribune.org\/2018\/06\/28\/undocumented-immigrant-parents-border-children-el-paso-shelter-separated\/\" class=\"ot-anchor\">https:\/\/www.texastribune.org\/2018\/06\/28\/undocumented-immigrant-parents-border-children-el-paso-shelter-separated\/<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"sm2wp\"><p>\n<a style='display:inline;' href='https:\/\/www.texastribune.org\/2018\/06\/27\/immigrant-toddlers-ordered-appear-court-alone\/'><br \/>\n<img src='https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/proxy\/evmU4CGR62-TV4XlOakK1HcvMVdzL1yFiRn0sc3KNaFi-PN1Ss7XqNZb4H940ZZpdkOt-RKLhPvP0wB7qv3wUN5KVAlJuVlVKGGzoz98YtwzHPtSSo0Ru5z5JXi2eHjDAXG4OTAFv_mMzVuzrUhsd7SerLk7I0pdehw_NAptQNPy3DgwZarGSAHN64a35jJpFjpzSJuuZsF7MKyII3A0UUoLuhHkqBmUlGhjMwg0N7AHajK7MeJCoi-7dYkVa2kjSxxPvgz5a9VjNI2zsQmXujFcU5iaRg1WP-Gb_-iglz-BONcnxKY5pA=w506-h910' border='0' style='max-width:650px;'\/><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\n<span style='font-size:large;'><a href='https:\/\/www.texastribune.org\/2018\/06\/27\/immigrant-toddlers-ordered-appear-court-alone\/'>Immigrant toddlers ordered to appear in court alone | The Texas Tribune<\/a><\/span><br \/>\nAs the White House faces court orders to reunite families separated at the border, immigrant children as young as 3 years old are being ordered into court for their own deportation proceedings, according to attorneys in Texas, California and Washington, D.C.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style='font-size:small;'><a href='https:\/\/plus.google.com\/+DaveHill47\/posts\/jM8BmE6YTZ6'>Original Post<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Oh, he&#39;s backed off everything, hooray, on to other news!&quot; Not quite. Because not only was his backing-off full of weasel-words, and reliant largely on the good graces of ICE and CBP, but there remain the over 2000 kids already separated from their families, and that&#39;s continuing to be a horrible, destructive mess. &quot;Oh, but &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2018\/06\/29\/trumps-immigration-debacle-is-still-a-debacle.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Trump&#8217;s Immigration Debacle is &#8230; still a debacle&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[106,350,17,740,1071],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-136853","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-plusposts","category-civil-liberties","category-homeland-security","category-race-racism","category-trump"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":134647,"url":"https:\/\/hill-kleerup.org\/blog\/2017\/09\/11\/the-equifax-debacle.html","url_meta":{"origin":136853,"position":0},"title":"The Equifax Debacle","author":"***Dave","date":"Mon 11-Sep-17 11:51am","format":false,"excerpt":"Yeah, pretty much this. I'm following along the news as the best \"next\" steps to take as a consumer. 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